25 Points of National Socialism (1 Viewer)

[Captain America]

I cannot understand how a person who has an agenda to promote themselves as a superior human identifies, by association, with the scurge of mankind? It is contradictory to say the least.

It is a well accepted fact amongst the masses that Alolph Hitler and his ilk were a blight upon the history of mankind. They were considered the lowest form of human ever to have been recorded throughout history.

Not even the false illusion that the color of your skin somehow makes you superior to another can save an individual from the appearance of being not much more than a human cockroach when they display things that identifies with them with the ideology promoted by the Nazi's.

Isn't that counter-productive to your cause and mission sir?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I'm quite certain that the NSM have not copyrighted the 25 points of National Socialism.

Perhaps not the originals; but, as you noted, this is not the originals. Further, paraphrasing- presenting others' ideas in original words- is the preferred format.

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[::Major_Baker::]

Yes, I am racist too.

Why? You honestly think genetic makeup determines the worth of a humna being? Why?

If it's necessary then yes.

Why would it ever be necessary?

Deportation is an option, yes.

But not a viable or practical option. We would be deporting our own citizens.

I'm not American nor do I live in America, but for my own country, the solution would most likely be deportation to a non-aryan/white country. Then again I am not in a position to judge how a National Socialist government would react. Needless to say, I would support any decision.

Where do you live?
We would deport say, mexican americans, who are citizens, back to mexico?
Where would you end up, if you did live in america? America is certainly not originally the white man's home.

Anyone who is not an Aryan will not be permitted to be a citizen of the nation and therefore subject to laws regarding aliens, and dealt with accordingly.

Why are aryans so special?

 

[Auftrag]

Why?

I am a racist because I believe in the differnation between races.

You honestly think genetic makeup determines the worth of a humna being?

To some degree yes, but it is not the entire story. Culturally, politically, ethically and militarily Aryans are massively superior to other races

Why?

Because it's fact.

Why would it ever be necessary?

The cross breeding of races is no acceptable.

But not a viable or practical option.

I'm sure it would be an expense. I'm also sure there are less cost effective ways of dealing the situation.

We would be deporting our own citizens.

In terms of a Nationa Socialist nation they would no longer be

We would deport say, mexican americans, who are citizens, back to mexico?

By law Mexican Americans would no longer be Americans. They would just be Mexicans.

Where would you end up

It would take a long time but eventually you would end up with a pure nation of Aryans.

Why are aryans so special?

We built civilisation.

 

[Auftrag]

I cannot understand how a person who has an agenda to promote themselves as a superior human identifies, by association, with the scurge of mankind?

What a ridiculously irrational argument. It's a fallacy argument. Because you have a subjective opinion about National Socialism and it's history does not mean objectively that I am associating myself with "the scurge of mankind."

Obviously, it's a matter of opinion.

It is contradictory to say the least.

In your mind maybe.

It is a well accepted fact amongst the masses that Alolph Hitler and his ilk were a blight upon the history of mankind.

It is indeed a fact that Hitler is misrepresented by the western world, but that's to be expected. Hitler lost a war to communists and jews. The victors of war always get to write the history.

They were considered the lowest form of human ever to have been recorded throughout history.

You mean more so than Attila the Hun, or Ghangis Khan or Ivan the Terrible? I think your history is far too emotive and irrational.

Stalin and Ghangis Khan for example were far more ruthless and ambitious in their annihilation of theirenemies.

Not even the false illusion that the color of your skin somehow makes you superior to another can save an individual from the appearance of being not much more than a human cockroach

There really nothing of intellectual value to respond to, except to say that it is far more than the colour of your skin that determines superiority.

Isn't that counter-productive to your cause and mission sir?

Erm...Clearly not...As my cause and mission is National Socialism...

 

[Tashah]

Oy vey.

There you have it folks. Auftrag isn't some mythic Jewish construct. He exists somewhere in the rubbish-bin of supremicist ideology. He is certainly not alone in those depths as is evidenced by the OP author. Their passion consists of exclusivity and their modus-operandi embraces hate... a composit primitive and tribalistic ideology. They are bottom-feeders who play on misbegotton fears of 'the other'. Their greatest enemies are intelligence, compassion, and a stubborn refusal to accept any notion of inherent human differences. They either cannot or will not accept the history of the universe which unambiguously declares... that all of us are the children of the stars.

 

[Auftrag]

You people are so boring. Where's the argument, where's the refutation? You people rely solely on emotion in your dramatic little speeches and assert irrational arguments in an attempt to understand a set of ideas you have been programmed to hate.

Why not try listening?

 

[LeftyHenry]

So do you liberal whites want to protect your White Christian Heritage? Or will you go to hell with the negros?

I'll go to hell.

Culturally, politically, ethically and militarily Aryans are massively superior to other races

That's kaka dudu. The Aryans make the political system so of course they're going to succeed in it. If leaving people to starve on the streets is ethincal to you then you have issues, and if be militarily superior is good thing, which probably isn't true, then murder must be good as well in your society. Besides your arguement is empty because you have no facts to back it up. The only facts you have are the ones your pyshcological disorder tells you to have.

 

[massive_attack]

You people are so boring. Where's the argument, where's the refutation? You people rely solely on emotion in your dramatic little speeches and assert irrational arguments in an attempt to understand a set of ideas you have been programmed to hate.

Why not try listening?

First off, thanks for being man enough to post. Judging by your post you're obviously an intelligent and educated person. Your use of the word fallacy alone puts you in the top 5% of online "debators".

Some people may think I'm an idiot for calling an admitted racist intelligent and educated. However just because someone holds one or two views that are very contrary to popular opinion doesn't make them an idiot. Nor does it mean people should, or have the right to talk to you like a subhuman. This part is especially entertaining because they are treating you like less of a person based on the fact that you think other races are less of a person than you. Entertaining indeed. Anyways, my dad is a little of a racist but he's also very educated and knows a crap load about history.

Moving on I'd like to address a few points you've made in several of your post.

If black people are destine for hell why did god bother to create them ? Keep in mind I don't actually believe in any god or in hell.

You are in favor of eventual mass deportations and what not of non whites. Wouldn't it be easier, more economically feasible and more geopolitiaclly sound for people like yourself to form your own remote communities ? Let's face it, mass deportation based on skin color will probably never happen and if it did it would be short lived and on the long term unsuccessful. For these reasons shouldn't "yall" take up a plan more likely to succeed in the long run (like the one I describe).

The unfortunate fact of the matter for your group, whatever that is, is that you probably lay in the minority and will continue to lay in the minority as your view points are not widely accepted and are attached to a very bad history (regardless if this history is "correct" or not).

For these reasons and more I think it's a better idea that "yall" set up camp somewhere else, move out of town, create a new town and work on your plans from there. But in the event someone of another race moves in I wouldn't suggest killing them or using violence against them. Not that you've posted anything that would imply that you believe in such thing, I'm just throwing that out there.

I personally am not a racist. I didn't chose to be white and I doubt you did either. Based on this type of reasoning I don't hate/dislike people based upon their skin color or what their culture may have instilled in them.

 

[Auftrag]

The Aryans make the political system so of course they're going to succeed in it.

I meant historically.

If leaving people to starve on the streets is ethincal to you then you have issues,

I have no idea what you're referring to.

if be militarily superior is good thing,

Again, I'm referring historically as in the creation and propogation of civilisation etc etc.

murder must be good as well in your society.

Erm, no. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person, why would that be a "good" thing?

Besides your arguement is empty because you have no facts to back it up.

Anybody who lives in Western society and has read a history book can plainly see that the advancments of civilisation have almost exclusively come from the Aryan.

The only facts you have are the ones your pyshcological disorder tells you to have.

Yes.

 

[Auftrag]

If black people are destine for hell why did god bother to create them ? Keep in mind I don't actually believe in any god or in hell.

First of all, I'm not the poster who posted that particular comment. Secondly I am not a member of the American National Socialist Movement. Thirdly, I don't believe there is such a place as hell.

You are in favor of eventual mass deportations and what not of non whites. Wouldn't it be easier, more economically feasible and more geopolitiaclly sound for people like yourself to form your own remote communities ?

I'm not American, but I come from a Teutonic nation and in respect to the greater Teuton nation which is inclusive of Anglo-Saxony then those lands belong to Teuton’s not to other people. It's our land and our heritage.

Let's face it, mass deportation based on skin color will probably never happen

Obviously skin colour is an obvious way to identify a non-Teutonic/Aryan person, but in terms of it never happening, I don't see why that's the case. Racial conflict is inevitable anyway.

if it did it would be short lived and on the long term unsuccessful.

Surely that would depend on why it happened in the first place.

For these reasons shouldn't "yall" take up a plan more likely to succeed in the long run (like the one I describe).

Absolutely not.

The unfortunate fact of the matter for your group, whatever that is, is that you probably lay in the minority and will continue to lay in the minority as your view points are not widely accepted and are attached to a very bad history (regardless if this history is "correct" or not).

The organisation I belong to is particularly small and I understand how difficult and how long the road is, but that does not mean that we should not walk that road. Or indeed run it.

Racial conflict is inevitable as I've said, it’s the natural order of things for races to be in conflict with each other and as we see around the world it is already obvious that this is happening.

I personally am not a racist. I didn't chose to be white and I doubt you did either. Based on this type of reasoning I don't hate/dislike people based upon their skin color or what their culture may have instilled in them.

Again, this is a preconceived misrepresentation of National Socialism. Of course there are many hate groups out there that specifically hate other people who are different and are emotive and angry. Combat-18 and Blood and Honour are good examples of that. However, I don't "hate" anyone. hate is emotive and irrational. I merely accept the superiority of my race and the inevitability of its victory and domination against other races.

It's better understand using Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest. Those who are superior/stronger, survive.

 

[massive_attack]

Obviously skin colour is an obvious way to identify a non-Teutonic/Aryan person, but in terms of it never happening, I don't see why that's the case. Racial conflict is inevitable anyway.

I'm unsure how familiar you are with America. Here we have *a lot* of races that more or less live in harmony with each other. Yes there are still some problems but that's with a very small group of people.

I personally am not a racist. I didn't chose to be white and I doubt you did either. Based on this type of reasoning I don't hate/dislike people based upon their skin color or what their culture may have instilled in them.

Again, this is a preconceived misrepresentation of National Socialism. ... I merely accept the superiority of my race and the inevitability of its victory and domination against other races.

It's better understand using Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest. Those who are superior/stronger, survive.

I wasn't referring to National Socialism, just racism in general. In what ways do you feel whites are superior to the other races ? I assume you are aware that it is a fact that people of African decent develop muscle fibers more readily than whites do. This explains their dominance in American sporting events even though they only make up a meger approx 15% of the population. Each race may have it's benefits and downfalls. I assume you accept this as well.

Furthermore, what scientific basis/evidence to you have for the conclusion that whites are superior to the other races ?

You've probably heard of the Mayans and their intellect. The Egyptians also contributed greatly to society. Muslims also did their part for civilization. You probably haven't heard of al-Khwarizmi, " the often called `Father of Algebra.' [link]. If it weren't for the Indians there is a decent chance the initial "Americans" may have simply died off. Indeed, history will show that each race has contributed immensely to the life all of us are able to enjoy today. If in the past, a long long time ago each of the races simply kept to themselves civilazation on the whole would have suffered immeasureably.

For these reasons I personally welcome racial / cultural integration. If it weren't for the "melting pot" mentality of America we (it may not matter to you) might have very well lost WWI or WWII.

 

[LeftyHenry]

I meant historically.

What do you mean?

I have no idea what you're referring to.

I mean the capitalistic concept of laissez-faire. I call it Savergery.

Again, I'm referring historically as in the creation and propogation of civilisation etc etc.

Look at Shaka and the Zulus. They defeated the white Aryan British soldiers who had guns by using spears and animal hide shields due to there superior tactics.

Erm, no. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person, why would that be a "good" thing?

That's only one definition. Another definiton is

2. To kill brutally or inhumanly.

That's what your hero did to millions of people. So I'd think you'd think it's a good thing.

Anybody who lives in Western society and has read a history book can plainly see that the advancments of civilisation have almost exclusively come from the Aryan.

That's false. The Cinese had an advanced civilized cultural soceity while white man could barely make fire.

 

[Auftrag]

What do you mean?

Well, I mean that political science as we know it was created by Aryans.

Look at Shaka and the Zulus. They defeated the white Aryan British soldiers who had guns by using spears and animal hide shields due to there superior tactics.

Rawkes Drift...

That's only one definition. Another definiton is

2. To kill brutally or inhumanly.

That's what your hero did to millions of people. So I'd think you'd think it's a good thing.

Whether it was inhumane is a matter of opinion. I don't think the Final Solution was a good thing by the way. I do however agree that when violence is necessary then it is justified.

That's false. The Cinese had an advanced civilized cultural soceity while white man could barely make fire.

That's historically inaccurate. There were advanced tribes in India and those areas but the evidence suggests that those nations were colonised by Aryans hundreds of years before. I suggest researching the 'Aryan Invasion Theory'.

 

[Auftrag]

I'm unsure how familiar you are with America. Here we have *a lot* of races that more or less live in harmony with each other.

No they don't. Look at you communities. Look at the riots throughout the last 20 years and the rise of gun crime. There is a clear tension between races in your country.

I wasn't referring to National Socialism, just racism in general. In what ways do you feel whites are superior to the other races ?

I have explained that already in this thread.

I assume you are aware that it is a fact that people of African decent develop muscle fibers more readily than whites do.

Fine.

This explains their dominance in American sporting events even though they only make up a meger approx 15% of the population.

So negros run fast, so what?

Furthermore, what scientific basis/evidence to you have for the conclusion that whites are superior to the other races ?

History.

You've probably heard of the Mayans and their intellect. The Egyptians also contributed greatly to society. Muslims also did their part for civilization. You probably haven't heard of al-Khwarizmi, " the often called `Father of Algebra.' [link]. If it weren't for the Indians there is a decent chance the initial "Americans" may have simply died off. Indeed, history will show that each race has contributed immensely to the life all of us are able to enjoy today. If in the past, a long long time ago each of the races simply kept to themselves civilazation on the whole would have suffered immeasureably.

Superioity has nothing to do with intellect.

 

[massive_attack]

No they don't. Look at you communities. Look at the riots throughout the last 20 years and the rise of gun crime. There is a clear tension between races in your country.

You mean the riots in the 70s ? Welcome to 2006 ! Yes we had the Rodney King thing, but that was a police abuse issue. Police abuse is a different subject entirely.

If superiority has nothing to do with intellect or strength, what definition are you working with ?

What quality / qualities exactly are you referring to then ?

I look white as the whitest white boy, but I have indian in me. Does that make me less than you ?

 

[Auftrag]

You mean the riots in the 70s ? Welcome to 2006 ! Yes we had the Rodney King thing, but that was a police abuse issue. Police abuse is a different subject entirely.

Regardless of it being a police issue it highlighted the tension. Also, look at the New Orleans incident which was far more recent. There is a tension and a conflict which exists.

What quality / qualities exactly are you referring to then ?

Physicality, cultural, heritage and history.

I look white as the whitest white boy, but I have indian in me. Does that make me less than you ?

In certain ways, yes.

 

[Tashah]

I look white as the whitest white boy, but I have indian in me. Does that make me less than you?

In certain ways, yes.

Expand on this Auftrag. Explain what metric(s) you utilize to determine precisely how this particular person is adjudicated to be degraded/diminished from your reference frame? No polemics or semantical acrobatics please. Be concise, clear, unambiguous, and unequivocal.

 

[massive_attack]

Physicality, cultural, heritage and history.

So you're mainly talking about the past, not the present.

 

[Auftrag]

Expand on this Auftrag...Be concise, clear, unambiguous, and unequivocal.

He's not Aryan.

 

[Auftrag]

So you're mainly talking about the past, not the present.

The past makes the present that's the point. But essentially I suppose it is the past I am referring to.

The aryan is far more advanced than non-aryans. Civilisation was forged by us and advancments made in art, politics, culture have been almost exclusively because of the Aryan.

 

[massive_attack]

The past makes the present that's the point. But essentially I suppose it is the past I am referring to.

The aryan is far more advanced than non-aryans. Civilisation was forged by us and advancments made in art, politics, culture have been almost exclusively because of the Aryan.

Something I've always wondered about race purist is what leads you to believe your blood, your race, is pure ?

Humans have been around for "about" 250,000 years. That's some time. Not to mention we all came from Africa [read: pangea a few million years ago]. In that 250,000 years a good deal of sex has occured. It's more than a statistical stretch to assume that no interracial relations took place between now and then.

How does this sit with you ?

You claim "advancments made in art, politics, culture have been almost exclusively because of the Aryan".

Please support this position.

 

[Auftrag]

Something I've always wondered about race purist is what leads you to believe your blood, your race, is pure ?

Pure is obviously used in a subjective way. It's a term used to describe the strength and advancment of a race, rather than of an objective fact.

Humans have been around for "about" 250,000 years. That's some time. Not to mention we all came from Africa [read: pangea a few million years ago].

Africa has not always been Africa, its a relatively new continent in the history of the land on the Earth.

Humanity may have origniated from a land mass that is now called Africa, but we didn't all originate from the African continent.

In that 250,000 years a good deal of sex has occured. It's more than a statistical stretch to assume that no interracial relations took place between now and then.

I'm not claiming that they haven't. The German NSDAP dated back 200 years to identify lineage, but I'm not exactly sure why that particular figure. I would insist that the period be longer.

Please support this position.

Read a history book.

 

[massive_attack]

Read a history book.

Is that history book by any chance called "why white people are great" ?

What history book ? I assume you've read it. The history books I've read include contributions from other races. Maybe you should try a different history book.

 

[Auftrag]

Is that history book by any chance called "why white people are great" ?

What history book ? I assume you've read it. The history books I've read include contributions from other races. Maybe you should try a different history book.

Oh come on now, it's not that complicated.

I asserted that advancments in civilisation came almost exclusively from Aryans. You asked me to support the position and I am telling you that if you read a history book it will clear demonstrate that to you.