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2025--Hottest January on Record Shocks Scientists

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Last month's record was especially shocking because this is a typically cooling "El Nina" year.

The warming, despite La Niña’s emergence in December, will fuel concerns that climate change is accelerating at a time when countries such as the US, the world’s largest historical polluter, pull back on commitments to reduce emissions.

Bill McGuire, emeritus professor of geophysical and climate hazards at UCL, said the January data was “both astonishing and, frankly terrifying”, adding: “On the basis of the Valencia floods and apocalyptic Los Angeles wildfires, I don’t think there can be any doubt that dangerous, all-pervasive, climate breakdown has arrived. Yet emissions continue to rise.”
 
Today's weather...

 
Talk to China about it.
 
Yep the Earth is warming, warming implies that future temperatures will be higher than past temperatures.
That is kind of how warming works.
The more important question is WHY we are warming?
Earth is getting warming because of an increase in Absorbed Solar Radiation, More of the Sun's
available shortwave radiation is reaching the surface, and less of that energy is being reflected.
Because the Sun's energy at the top of the atmosphere has not change much, it means our atmosphere is
filtering out less sunlight than it used to.
To warm, Earth needs to receive more ASR energy than it loses in longwave radiation,
But Earth's Outbound Longwave Radiation (OLR) has been increasing since year 2000.
Because the imbalance is not coming from decreasing OLR, that leaves the increasing ASR as the source of our warming.
The Human activity that would increase how much sunlight reaches the surface, is removing air pollution, clearing the skies.
Clearly we do not want to go back to the pollution of the 1960's, so a follow up question,
is is the warming bad, or is it bad because of how fast we released the filtered energy?
 

Fyi, my antidoteal two cents, this is the coldest winter in my 70 years.
 
noonereal said:
Fyi, my antidoteal two cents, this is the coldest winter in my 70 years.
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Unfortunately, as we get older, we perceive temperature differences greater.
It seems really hot in the summer and really cold in the winter, the stuff we would shrug
off in our youth is now painful.
 
longview said:
Unfortunately, as we get older, we perceive temperature differences greater.
It seems really hot in the summer and really cold in the winter, the stuff we would shrug
off in our youth is now painful.
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I am talking about the temperature and oil consumption. Duh
 
For the hottest January in on record, it's quite strange that my area broke a 130 year old record on snowfall. How about a link?
 
noonereal said:
I am talking about the temperature and oil consumption. Duh
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Fair enough, preparing to retire, I added lots of insulation, and improved my HVAC system,
so my numbers for such things as Gas use and kWH are no longer accurate.
 
The weather in the UK has been terrible this year.
The rain has been consistent and the areas around me are in a constant state of slight flooding.
Don't come to the UK if you want a suntan as the sun has been completely absent.

On the other hand, East Anglia had been in severe drought conditions after years of for us extremely hot weather so we desperately needed the rain.
 
longview said:
The more important question is WHY we are warming?
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We know why.
longview said:
Earth is getting warming because of an increase in Absorbed Solar Radiation,
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Nope, that's not it. Go to school, get yourself a PhD in climate science or least chemistry, read all the relevant literature, and engage with other climate scientists (instead of fellow non-experts on an unscientific chat site.

Then you'd be in a position to responsibly challenge the overwhelming consensus among experts that the warming is caused primarily by human-caused greenhouse gases in our atmosphere.
 
noonereal said:
Fyi, my antidoteal two cents, this is the coldest winter in my 70 years.
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When it comes to science, anecdotes aren't worth anything, much less two cents.
 
MAGAnificent said:
For the hottest January in on record, it's quite strange that my area broke a 130 year old record on snowfall. How about a link?
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Oh, good, Elon hasn't shut down NOAA completely...yet.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration​
THIS IS A LINK--->>>January temperature marks new global milestone<<<---THIS IS A LINK​
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The average global land and ocean surface temperature was 2.39 degrees F (1.33 degrees C) above the 20th-century average, ranking as the warmest January in the 176-year global climate record. This was 0.05 of a degree F (0.03 of a degree C) above the previous record-warm January of 2024.​
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The new January global record is particularly notable for having occurred during a La Nina episode, the cold phase of El Nino Southern Oscillation (ENSO). Global temperatures tend to be cooler during periods of ENSO-neutral conditions and even cooler during La Nina.​
 
jpn said:
When it comes to science, anecdotes aren't worth anything, much less two cents.
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Was a comment necessary? No, it was not.
I was clear that I placed no value in the big picture because I was hammered by the cold in my little valley.
Of course if one is on a crusade, anything that might be interpreted as outside of agenda dogma must be attacked.
 
I am sorry you cannot follow the actual science.
Observational Assessment of Changes
Now let's compare what I said, with the observed data published in a peer reviewed study?
Here is what I said,

longview said:
Earth is getting warming because of an increase in Absorbed Solar Radiation,
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and here are the words from the above cited study.
The increase is the result of a 0.9 ± 0.3 Wm−2 increase absorbed solar radiation (ASR)
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For the record added CO2 is supposed to cause warming by decreasing the Outbound Longwave Radiation (OLR),
which has been increasing since 2000, as the CO2 level increased!
that is partially offset by a 0.4 ± 0.25 Wm−2 increase in outgoing longwave radiation (OLR).
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Just curious but when you read that January 2025 was 0.03C above the previous record-warm January,
and then see that NOAA says this about the accuracy of their reading,
Does that +/- 0.08°C exceed the 0.03 of a degree C above the previous January record?
To me it sure looks like the increase is within the margin of error.
 
Just curious, did you read my post? It mentioned obtaining the requisite qualifications to question the global consensus by experts.
 
jpn said:
Just curious, did you read my post? It mentioned obtaining the requisite qualifications to question the global consensus by experts.
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Your source of data was NOAA, and I simply cited NOAA's own published error margin, I sorry
you do not like the error margins from your own source.
 
longview said:
Your source of data was NOAA, and I simply cited NOAA's own published error margin, I sorry
you do not like the error margins from your own source.
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I'm sorry you can't find a better use of your time than trying to confuse a few internet posters with your pretend expertise.
 
jpn said:
I'm sorry you can't find a better use of your time than trying to confuse a few internet posters with your pretend expertise.
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Not my expertise, this is what NOAA publishes as their error margin for their global temperature data set.
Why deny it?
 
" over the past sixty years"

why only 60 years ? why not 120 years? 400 years ? because the earth cycles and global warming is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ... gotta keep the sky is falling going right ?

Hard Winter of 1880–81 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org


my biggest question is ... what is the goal of fighting climate change? if its 1.25 degree's and all of a sudden the earth cools and we go down 2.125 degree's ... are we going to start "global warming" to get it back up to a certain temperature ? sounds stupid doesn't it ? that we can control the earth's temperature ?
 
jpn said:
Just curious, did you read my post? It mentioned obtaining the requisite qualifications to question the global consensus by experts.
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A consensus of corrupt F*cks stuck on stupid.

 
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