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2020 Presidential Election night discussion

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Jredbaron96 said:
To be honest I just googled it.
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It's ok, found here.
260,126 spread. Very close to what I've been expecting (see last night post). Still a million or so counts left, strongly democratic. I'm expecting 52% Biden 48% Trump or better, when all said and done.
Suddenly all those polling electoral map scenarios starting to look prescient.
 
BlueTex said:
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Dude, we did not win Texas. getting real close, in 2 years the Gov and Lt Gov have a Problem.

That said, we got rid of the Trash living in out Whitehouse, hopefully they will be moved out in time to fumigate and disinfect the place before the Biden's move in.
 
Much as Trump did in 2016, Biden is currently on pace to carry all three of MI/PA/WI by margins that are narrow, but wide enough to be outside the range of what a recount would plausibly overturn.
 
88% of the vote in PA has been counted. Trump leads with just under 200,000 votes, but nearly 80% of absentee ballots have been for Biden.
 
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vegas giants said:
Ok if you dont realize that the democrats will have to raise taxes if they want to pass a lot of the programs that they want then I guess we are done
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Biden does not plan to raise taxes on the middle class, only on corporations and individuals with incomes over 400k. Republicans have ALREADY voted and Trump has SIGNED a tax bill that will RAISE taxes on the middle class in 2021 early in his term. Without the Senate, Biden may not be able to undo that.
 
Casper said:
Looks like we have to wait a day, but Hey, Savor The Moment!
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Yes, exactly what I thought when I checked the news this morning: every hour is a good hour when Trump has not been declared the winner. Considering how badly everyone screwed up their predictions for this election, though, I refuse to have anymore hope than a decrease in queasiness. Last night was awful.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
It seems like Joe has won but I'm not at ease until it's confirmed. Mail-in ballots from Democratic areas are almost certainly for Joe. His lead will almost certainly increase.

*sigh* bug I want confirmation.
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Going to be hard to contest if he gets a few more key states. Wonder if Trump will concede if he gets Arizona, Nevada, and Pennsylvania.
 
vegas giants said:
Ok if you dont realize that the democrats will have to raise taxes if they want to pass a lot of the programs that they want then I guess we are done
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Why do they need to raise taxes to pay for programs? Trump printed money at will, why do Democrats have to live by a different standard?
 
Aletheia said:
Going to be hard to contest if he gets a few more key states. Wonder if Trump will concede if he gets Arizona, Nevada, and Pennsylvania.
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He'll be the first president not to concede ever.
 
Vadinho said:
Why do they need to raise taxes to pay for programs? Trump printed money at will, why do Democrats have to live by a different standard?
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New programs would be ongoing and would need to be funded
 
MaryP said:
From what I can see, Biden has to win Nevada. What is the holdup over there, do you know?
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The time difference. Nevada is in the Pacific Time Zone, so polls closed at 11:00.
 
Biden loses Nevada he is toasted.
 
I'm ready to call it.

IMO Biden and Harris will win the election. I'm sad to say this, but I am a realist.

It was the mail-in ballots that turned the tide. Just like the Democrats expected they would.

Without them, Trump would have taken the key States of Wisconsin and Michigan; and I expect him to lose Pennsylvania when that batch of mail-in ballots is eventually counted.

After all, that State's Attorney General declared Trump would not win in PA...and he controls the vote counting. 🤷‍♂️

I could list all sorts of reasons to disparage the process with multiple faults, but that is water under the bridge.

The only real light is that the Republicans appear to be retaining control over the Senate, at least for the next few years.

Hopefully the next election will swing the other way when people see the kind of undermining and damage Harris, Pelosi, and the AOC "crew" try to pull.

Oh, and look for the DOJ to change it's tune on Flynn...poor guy is doomed now.
 
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