AmericanbyChoic
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Good overview, Mo.
One thing to point out is that this has been an idea that has been worked on for 40 years+, with lots of work going to prove it wrong, but most of the data going towards confirming that AGW is real and will be a major problem.
The work now is really going towards clarifying how bad things will get in terms of environmental impact.
The basic studies of AGW are just no longer that interesting since its so well established.
LOL!
I never tire of the "Chicken Little" ruse…
"It's HOTTER NOW THAN IT WAS THIS MORNING! AT THIS RATE, WE'LL ALL BE INCINERATED BY TOMORROW AT 4:00!"
Hysterical…
Naturally, every cycle provides for ebbs and flows… therefore, where on finds themselves in a system designed around the cyclical, one should not panic on the news that one's system is ebbing or flowing.
So, you may stop the populist panic and return to your homes… everything is fine until the sun's natural demise engulfs the planet, incinerating everything you've every known.
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Oh lord… WHAT HAVE I DONE?
Yes…
And for 40 years I've lived along the shore, listening to all the harbingers of rising sea-levels… and to date, 40 years later, the sea remains right where it was…
Now not too terribly long ago, I saw a map of Florida's coastline… which has ranged from many hundreds of miles east to west greater than it is today, to the area known today as Ocala, being a series of islands…
So, NO… Higher taxes and redistributive fiscal policy will not stop the planet's atmosphere from changing… and the seas are not rising, so stow it. It's all good.
Thank God science doesn't work by anecdote.
Again, that map you saw was drawn by scientists. You're being selective because you don't like the truth they are telling you.
And why would you? You'll die before it gets bad. Stay true to the libertarian/Randian creed: "**** you , I got mine."
And how do you know the sun will incinerate the earth one day as its 'natural demise'
Oh. What's that you say? Scientists?
Why are you so selective as to which science you believe?
LOL!
Now isn't that precious?
'Scientists drew a map, which showed the natural cycle of the earth's seas… (which occurred largely in the absence of humanity and wholly in the absence of human industry) and THAT requires that "SCIENCE!" (The politicalization, thus the delegitimization of the study of the physical universe, OKA: Science…) has it right, despite the evidence which proves otherwise.'
Here's a clue… The seas aren't rising AT THE RATE WHICH THE CHICKEN LITTLE CULT CLAIMS THEY ARE.
Ya see Scamp… we don't care if the seas rise or fall, as there's not a thing we can do to change or otherwise alter those cycles.
What we care about, are the deceptions, fraudulently advanced as a means to influence the ignorant. Because that is destructive to the viability of a sound culture.
I know it, because it serves reason…
What does NOT serve reason, is DECADES of Leftists braying on that in 10 years BRITAIN, FLORIDA, THe BAHAMAs, Portugal, will be under water…
Those were lies… just as here, today, YOU are lying. Now you may not 'feel' that what you're saying is false, but you're old enough to know better, which works out the same.
I'm not lying. I'm merely reinforcing what scientists have been saying for years and have largely nailed.
And no scientists were saying those places would be underwater in 10 years. I'd call that a lie, but I'm not classless enough to say that outright.
And you know this because the ocean outside your window looks the same as you remember it.
And you know this is a natural cycle of...something...and man hasnt and cant effect it because you feel it in your gut.
Oh, goodie, yet another it's real, no it's not, Al Gore is wrong, science is wrong, no it's not, the Earth is warming, no it's not, and if it is carbon dioxide can't be a factor, politicians want to use AGW to pass more taxes, therefore it must be wrong sort of a thread.
I confess: I didn't read the whole thing, and probably never will. Nothing new under either the sun or the carbon ever is posted anyway. I did read the above, however.
I'm going to go out on a limb, here, since I admittedly didn't read the rest of the thread: Neither Lord nor anyone else from the Church of Perpetual Denial ever came up with anyone who actually said that the sun doesn't matter.
If I'm wrong, please quote me the post in which someone actually said this. Otherwise, I'm going with the conclusion that it is a giant straw man that was never addressed again.
I'm not lying. I'm merely reinforcing what scientists have been saying for years and have largely nailed.
And no scientists were saying those places would be underwater in 10 years. I'd call that a lie, but I'm not classless enough to say that outright.
Oh! Well with reinforcement like THAT… who needs to trust their own eyes, right?
I mean with DECADES of one refutation after ANOTHER… you people still 'feel' compelled to warn us of that which we can readily see, is no threat.
Tell me, is there a point at which you will set aside the ruse? How many decades must pass without a discernible rise in sea levels before we can safely rid ourselves of the hue and cry demanding that such is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER and ALL OUR LIVES ARE AT RISK?
It's been 4 decades… must we go another 4? How about 8? 16? 32? Where's it stop?
Yet another page of nonsense, and still no one has even attempted to name someone who said that the sun doesn't matter.
I'm proven right once again.
I'll be watching this thread for another opportunity to show the arguments of the Church of Perpetual Denial to be false, ever shifting, and dependent on fallacious reasoning.
You don't know when and where I might strike next.
LOL!
So no 'scientists' has claimed that sea levels are rising?
And so on and so forth…
Please. Show us a 'refutation'.
Remember- not a link from Rush Limbaugh. We want a reviewed scientific article, preferably a primary source.
But by all means, keep railing on about 'ruses' and 'lies'. It's entertaining.
LOL!
Are you asking for evidence that the Left; the irrational ideology which rejects the natural principles governing human behavior, has claimed that the sun doesn't matter in terms of the earth's atmosphere?
Seriously?
The ENTIRE SCAM RESTS UPON THE PREMISE THAT THE SUN DOES NOT EXIST.
I never said this.
This is what is known as 'moving the goalposts' in logical fallacy circles.
I said no one said Florida would be underwater in ten years.
But I have a feeling you might have been confused because they used the measurement in millimeters.
And as we all know, mm are that commie invention that is inferior to measuring in inches like real 'Mericans' do.
Of course. That was the claim that was made near the beginning of the thread. Either it can be backed up, or it can't. I'm guessing that it can't, and that any attempt to call it a strawman will be met with a changing of the subject.
as for example:
OK, then, if you'd rather, show us where anyone has claimed that the sun does not exist.
Until you can back up the claims made, straw men and change of subject, are all you have.
No?
So this wasn't you?
"Originally Posted by Threegoofs
I'm not lying. I'm merely reinforcing what scientists have been saying for years and have largely nailed.
And no scientists were saying those places would be underwater in 10 years. …"
Right. 3mm per year does not mean Florida is underwater in a decade.
I'm suspecting that you're not just an American by choice, but you're also a Tennessee Mash drinker by choice too...
True… 3mm per year does not mean that Florida will be under water in a decade… nor a century… nor during any period which on any level would be of a concern to any…one.
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I see no link, just a reference to a newspaper article.
Remember. Underwater. Ten years. That's what you're looking for.
Happy hunting.
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