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What are you saying? That we can't trust anyone about anything because everyone works for money one way or another???
Given that the mantra to discredit researchers is to "follow the money", presumably back to big oil, you should prepare a better rebuttal in the future.
What are you saying? That we can't trust anyone about anything because everyone works for money one way or another???
See what I mean. You attempt to discredit the source by stating that they are paid for, yet you use the exact opposite logic when defending your source. Hilarious stuff man.
that so called survey was done over 10 years ago and some of those same climatologists said Florida would be underwater by now
You can't in one breathe say that you can't trust X because they are paid shills, then attempt to deflect when someone says the same about your sources. Either acknowledge that yes, people can be paid shills, regardless if they agree with you, or come up with with a better rebuttal than "nuh-uh, only you do that!".
That being said, why should we trust someone that says "AGW is real, and if you give me more money, I will keep researching it"?
A new study by the WMO (World Meteorological Organisation) shows the planet "experienced unprecedented high-impact climate extremes" in the ten years from 2001 to 2010, the warmest decade since the start of modern measurements in 1850.
Those ten years also continued an extended period of accelerating global warming, with more national temperature records reported broken than in any previous decade. Sea levels rose about twice as fast as the trend in the last century.
Unprecedented climate extremes marked last decade, says UN | Environment | guardian.co.uk
Further evidence, if any more were needed, that climate change is a reality. Sure, the climate change deniers, like all conspiracy theorists, will deny any evidence put before them. Hopefully this new evidence will make some people to see the reality.
LoL "Solyndra money", did you get that from Faux news? Quite the bold claim there, all scientists are just funding whores huh? So I guess we can't trust anything? Turn off your computer, it was built from the work of groveling whores we can't trust.
What is this about high school hazing? LoL.... this is the mentality of you people. Your former glory of strutting around high school thinking you're special? They wouldn't dare anyway, some of intelligent types are far more dangerous than your typical stereotyped skinny weakling with broken glasses. :lol:
This is why conservatives aren't scientists and do not possess the right mind for this kind of work. You're not able to differentiate between junk science and real science. You cannot differentiate between an oil company funding a "study" to promote views that are favorable to the individual company with centuries of scientific work brought together from nations across the globe by scientists of all different walks of life with a passion for discovery and knowledge.
You chalk all this up to the simple formula that funding poisons the scientific process from start to finish in every situation so we can't trust anything they do. If you knew anything about real science you would realize how petty and ridiculous this is.
Both of your arguments have been reduced to one-liner "yup that's what I thought I'm right". You're not scientists, stop pretending you know what you're talking about and just walk away. Leave the real work to the big kids and just do what we say, you're just getting in the way of our progress with your support of corporations that value their profits over the well being of our environment for future generations.
Show me the REAL SCIENCE behind this junk. Show me links of REAL EXPERIMENTS, peer reviewed, repeatable experiments that are documented. Show me something other than anonymous right-wing bull**** that is nothing more than characters in a HTML document sitting on a disinformation server. This **** has no backing, it has nothing, because it is nothing.
Do you know the difference between just talk, just words, just bull**** and real science? Show me these right-wing universities where they document all this crap they spew and show how it works?
Why should anyone care about future generations? You aren't religious, are you?
A new study by the WMO (World Meteorological Organisation) shows the planet "experienced unprecedented high-impact climate extremes" in the ten years from 2001 to 2010, the warmest decade since the start of modern measurements in 1850.
Those ten years also continued an extended period of accelerating global warming, with more national temperature records reported broken than in any previous decade. Sea levels rose about twice as fast as the trend in the last century.
Unprecedented climate extremes marked last decade, says UN | Environment | guardian.co.uk
Further evidence, if any more were needed, that climate change is a reality. Sure, the climate change deniers, like all conspiracy theorists, will deny any evidence put before them. Hopefully this new evidence will make some people to see the reality.
And here it is folks. This is why conservatives are such a problem in our society and can't be trusted with anything. They are driven with one rule and that is selfishness, what about me. What benefits me is right and what doesn't is wrong.
Why should anyone care about future generations? Do you have an actual opinion? Or do you enjoy having a conversation with yourself?
For those claiming that global warming does not exist, please provide a peer-reviewed scientific paper supporting your beliefs. He who makes the claims bears the burden of proof, and the vast majority of the scientific community understands and accepts that global warming is a reality. Thus, the burden of proof is on you.
Well according to the Liberals, if we give the Government more of our money via carbon taxes, all this apocalyptic gibberish will go away.
I'd be glad to, just as soon as you would provide one based on facts that proves that man is causing global warming. So you see, the burden of proof is on you. BTW, have you been dumb enough to donate money to those making millions off the man made global warming scam or are you in on it too?
Yes, please do explain it.Cite which particular IPCC assessment that has lead to this opinion. I suspect I know where the misunderstanding is but don't want to put words in your mouth.
Well over 90% of climatologists say ACC is real. Yes, climate change can occur naturally, but the rate of recent climate change is much higher than what has occurred naturally in the past.
Have you ever considered that the population density increases and satellite coverage makes it almost statistically impossible to miss climate events?
I currently believe in AGW but that is actually a good point.
Lets see.
We have a mechanism that is well known since the 1800s. Basic chemistry and physics.
We have a fairly good idea of the magnitude of warming each increment of CO2 should contribute.
We have a fairly good idea of what warming would look like.
We could predict warming oceans and acidification of oceans, which have increased acidity by 30% so far.
We have models from thirty years ago that predicted what we would see today.
Those models are pretty well spot on - with predictions of the warmest temperatures in the history of mankind proven.
We are seeing the effect on biological systems worldwide.
We have virtually every scientific organization known to man, and 90+ percent of the scientists who study this take it as fact.
We have dozens of scientific journals with thousands of scientific papers that show these facts to be true and proven.
What do you have? A blog? Or as one poster here has - sekrit writings that prove climate scientists are wrong? Or just gut feelings, as another poster has?
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