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2 Women Receive Felony over Trump hat Harrasment + Assault

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Two women charged with hate crimes after stealing child’s Make America Great Again hat

[FONT=&quot]Two women have been indicted on hate crimes after they stole a seven-year-old boy’s Make America Great Again hat outside the Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Delaware.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Delaware Police arrested Camryn Amy, 21, and Olivia Winslow, 21, on charges of robbery, conspiracy, endangering the welfare of a child. Amy also received two counts of offensive touching.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The women are accused of committing the crimes “for the purpose of interfering with the victim’s free exercise or enjoyment of any right, privilege or immunity protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, or committed said crime because the victim had exercised or enjoyed said right or rights,” according to the indictment.[/FONT]

Dude shoulda just drop kicked her, pretty sure you are allowed to punch someone to get your property back if they are trying to run off with it.

 

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Picking on a 7 year old….these bitches must think they are BIG AND TOUGH now!
 

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What bitches... talk about entitled pieces of ****. They are exactly what they despise.
 

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Hate Crimes? Trump supporters are a protected class now?
Why not? Are you mad leftists are being prosecuted for attacking and assaulting people over political beliefs? Im happy if its equal on both sides. I think lefties and righties deserve the same rights. If someone stole a BLM hat and beat them up it would be a hatecrime.

They even explained to the people that what they were doing was a felony and they STILL did it. I wouldn't be surprised if Ms. PunchyPunch gets 10 years. Ms. ScreamyBravadoAfterManHoldsHerBack gets 2 or 3 years. And dude who helped them get away with stolen item and assault gets 500$ fine and probation.
 

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Hate Crimes? Trump supporters are a protected class now?

Must have a really broadly written law. . .

That or a judge will be granting some motions to dismiss.
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Edit: First guess appears to be correct at a lazy glance. I'm too lazy to look up proper citation for Delaware and I don't remember where I put the bluebook, so:





[h=1]Delaware Code Title 11. Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 1304. Hate crimes;  class A misdemeanor G felony F felony E felony D felony C felony B felony A felony[/h]
(a) Any person who commits, or attempts to commit, any crime as defined by the laws of this State, and who intentionally:

(1) Commits said crime for the purpose of interfering with the victim's free exercise or enjoyment of any right, privilege or immunity protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, or commits said crime because the victim has exercised or enjoyed said rights;  or


(2) Selects the victim because of the victim's race, religion, color, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin or ancestry, shall be guilty of a hate crime.  For purposes of this section, the term “sexual orientation” means heterosexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality, and the term “gender identity” means a gender-related identity, appearance, expression or behavior of a person, regardless of the person's assigned sex at birth.

(b) Hate crimes shall be punished as follows:

(1) If the underlying offense is a violation or unclassified misdemeanor, the hate crime shall be a class A misdemeanor;

(2) If the underlying offense is a class A, B, or C misdemeanor, the hate crime shall be a class G felony;

(3) If the underlying offense is a class C, D, E, F, or G felony, the hate crime shall be 1 grade higher than the underlying offense;

(4) If the underlying offense is a class A or B felony, the hate crime shall be the same grade as the underlying offense, and the minimum sentence of imprisonment required for the underlying offense shall be doubled.




. . . which is really not what I would expect from a hate crime law . . .
 
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Why not? Are you mad leftists are being prosecuted for attacking and assaulting people over political beliefs? Im happy if its equal on both sides. I think lefties and righties deserve the same rights. If someone stole a BLM hat and beat them up it would be a hatecrime.

They even explained to the people that what they were doing was a felony and they STILL did it. I wouldn't be surprised if Ms. PunchyPunch gets 10 years. Ms. ScreamyBravadoAfterManHoldsHerBack gets 2 or 3 years. And dude who helped them get away with stolen item and assault gets 500$ fine and probation.

Why would you assume he is "mad leftists are being prosecuted for attacking and assaulting people over political beliefs"?

Why would you not instead assume he knows something about the law and, therefore, made the reasonable if incorrect guess that a hate crime law would be aimed at people who commit a crime out of motivation to harm someone in a protected class.

I also find it surprising that Delaware's law covers crimes based on exercise of speech
 

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Picking on a 7 year old….these bitches must think they are BIG AND TOUGH now!

Why is that the adults who know better assault little kids to get a MAGA hat? Funny stuff that they will probably catch a felony for their criminal conduct.
 

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Hate Crimes? Trump supporters are a protected class now?

When violence is used, motivated by some type of prejudice (e.g. religion, race, sexual orientation, etc.) .. it's a hate crime. These girls intentionally attacked, stole and destroyed property motivated by their prejudice against the views expressed by the victims. It would be no different if the person had a muslim hat or BLM hat.
 

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Why is that the adults who know better assault little kids to get a MAGA hat? Funny stuff that they will probably catch a felony for their criminal conduct.

That's easy. When 7 year olds fight back it doesn't hurt as much as when a 37 year old fights back. There's no sense in picking on adults when you've got kids around to pick on instead!
 

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These two women are the result of liberal indoctrination in public schools. Being taught that everybody deserves a trophy---even for losing. "NO" doesn't mean NO. Time outs are better than actual punishment. Everyone is somehow a "victim", and virtue is established by victim status. Debating a position isn't as worthy as "acting out" and having a tantrum--- or shouting down the other side and refusing to listen to their side. "Safe spaces" are required to protect the weak minded from being subjected to anything controversial or that "assaults" their fragile sensitivities.

So why are we surprised when two young adult women attack a child and steals his MAGA hat? Clearly these women believe their action was "morally" correct given their screwy liberal indoctrination. They were acting EXACTLY how they were trained to act. They weren't stealing the hat because they wanted to make it their own. Even a normal criminal has more ethics than these two women. A normal thief at least would want the property, maybe to sell or to use. But these two confronted with a contrary point of view actually believed they were taking the higher moral ground as ironic as that seems. They view an act like this as equal to marching on Selma, or hiding Jews in their attic. They actually believe they are right, and why not? Without any correct compass to point out their wrong behavior, this is what we get.
 

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Picking on a 7 year old….these bitches must think they are BIG AND TOUGH now!

What kind of twisted lunatic does this to a kid?
 

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These two women are the result of liberal indoctrination in public schools. Being taught that everybody deserves a trophy---even for losing. "NO" doesn't mean NO. Time outs are better than actual punishment. Everyone is somehow a "victim", and virtue is established by victim status. Debating a position isn't as worthy as "acting out" and having a tantrum--- or shouting down the other side and refusing to listen to their side. "Safe spaces" are required to protect the weak minded from being subjected to anything controversial or that "assaults" their fragile sensitivities.

So why are we surprised when two young adult women attack a child and steals his MAGA hat? Clearly these women believe their action was "morally" correct given their screwy liberal indoctrination. They were acting EXACTLY how they were trained to act. They weren't stealing the hat because they wanted to make it their own. Even a normal criminal has more ethics than these two women. A normal thief at least would want the property, maybe to sell or to use. But these two confronted with a contrary point of view actually believed they were taking the higher moral ground as ironic as that seems. They view an act like this as equal to marching on Selma, or hiding Jews in their attic. They actually believe they are right, and why not? Without any correct compass to point out their wrong behavior, this is what we get.

Well at the very least, they didn't jump in a trump, run the kid down, and then shoot him the back and kill him. So there's that.
 

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Well at the very least, they didn't jump in a trump, run the kid down, and then shoot him the back and kill him. So there's that.

Ah, the protesters have been hit by cars deflection every single time.
 

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These two women are the result of liberal indoctrination in public schools. Being taught that everybody deserves a trophy---even for losing. "NO" doesn't mean NO. Time outs are better than actual punishment. Everyone is somehow a "victim", and virtue is established by victim status. Debating a position isn't as worthy as "acting out" and having a tantrum--- or shouting down the other side and refusing to listen to their side. "Safe spaces" are required to protect the weak minded from being subjected to anything controversial or that "assaults" their fragile sensitivities.

So why are we surprised when two young adult women attack a child and steals his MAGA hat? Clearly these women believe their action was "morally" correct given their screwy liberal indoctrination. They were acting EXACTLY how they were trained to act. They weren't stealing the hat because they wanted to make it their own. Even a normal criminal has more ethics than these two women. A normal thief at least would want the property, maybe to sell or to use. But these two confronted with a contrary point of view actually believed they were taking the higher moral ground as ironic as that seems. They view an act like this as equal to marching on Selma, or hiding Jews in their attic. They actually believe they are right, and why not? Without any correct compass to point out their wrong behavior, this is what we get.

This phenomenon is evidenced strongly in women. I call them Squeaky Frommes, because they are indoctrinated cult members who were taught to hate themselves and others. Girls developing into women, taught that feminism means aggression, hatred and zero-sum everything.
If you look across the many protests are riots, they are acting like they're on a crusade, as if effecting their desired outcome is life and death. The level of hysteria is Jonestown worthy.
 

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assaulting people is dumb. don't do it.
 

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These two women are the result of liberal indoctrination in public schools. Being taught that everybody deserves a trophy---even for losing. "NO" doesn't mean NO. Time outs are better than actual punishment. Everyone is somehow a "victim", and virtue is established by victim status. Debating a position isn't as worthy as "acting out" and having a tantrum--- or shouting down the other side and refusing to listen to their side. "Safe spaces" are required to protect the weak minded from being subjected to anything controversial or that "assaults" their fragile sensitivities.

So why are we surprised when two young adult women attack a child and steals his MAGA hat? Clearly these women believe their action was "morally" correct given their screwy liberal indoctrination. They were acting EXACTLY how they were trained to act. They weren't stealing the hat because they wanted to make it their own. Even a normal criminal has more ethics than these two women. A normal thief at least would want the property, maybe to sell or to use. But these two confronted with a contrary point of view actually believed they were taking the higher moral ground as ironic as that seems. They view an act like this as equal to marching on Selma, or hiding Jews in their attic. They actually believe they are right, and why not? Without any correct compass to point out their wrong behavior, this is what we get.

What is also, sadly, not surprising is this seems to bother only the righties, yet when Trump tweeted something about Gretta whoever, lefties were all aghast he went after a “child”. **** this kid though, he was wearing a MAGA hat!!!
 

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Ah, the protesters have been hit by cars deflection every single time.

That was a reference to the "very fine folk" in Georgia shooting the black jogger.

But yeah, also nice that they didn't just run them over in general.
 

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assaulting people is dumb. don't do it.

Oh, it's good that they have been arrested and charged. It is completely unacceptable behavior, they need to learn that violence against others will not be tolerated.

I just find it funny that the people raging against these girls are the same ones with excuses for murder and manslaughter should it be the "left" who are the victims.
 

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When they have no defense it's always deflection.

This is really Trump’s fault. If Trump didn’t make them hate him so much they wouldn’t have had to defend themselves from the sight of a MAGA hat.
 
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