18 REASONS THE U.S. EDUCATION SYSTEM IS FAILING

[calamity]

I guess you don't know what an Apocalypse is?

Are you a “prepper”? Do you have a stocked bunker?

 

[Luther]

Yeah, they are dumb enough to earn 3x more than the uneducated.

But would be the first to die in an Apocalypse because they wouldn't know how to do anything(wink)

 

[Luther]

Are you a “prepper”? Do you have a stocked bunker?

Not obsessed ..... but yeah

I'm more prepared than let say a guy like you

 

[Luther]

You’re the one pining for the days prior to desegregation.

What?

I din't mention RACE

That was only you

(sigh)

 

[ataraxia]

No, that’s not a problem. The very well educated are usually short sighted, autistic, and subject to delusions of grandeur.

There is no actual evidence the climate is in crisis, yet for many in the scientific community, devolving everyone into serfdom fits well into making them see themselves as heroes. There is no need to impose a scientific technocracy. That’s what communists and fascists did.

What is your evidence for this?

Is the requirement for seat belts also part of this scientific technocracy?

 

[ataraxia]

The biggest reason is that the education system is designed to force people to vote for the left.

The American education system is not failing, it’s graduating gluttonous porn addicted zombies who will vote for the left and can’t think critically. It’s a massive success.

Yes! And that, folks, is why the Earth is only 6000 years old and why we need to keep looking for those Jewish space lasers, secret presidential birth certificates, and stolen elections.

 

[ataraxia]

Which has what to do with when we had some of the best Education in the world?

(sigh)

That was for a short period after WW2 when the rest of the world had beaten itself to such a pulp they didn’t even have an education system for a while. There was no competition. Now it’s not that we are doing it less- it’s that they have gotten back in their feet and doing much better and leaving us in the dust.

That’s because they’re not afraid of heavy public investment in the education of their population for fear of being called socialists; or because they still have questions about whether certain demographics in their population are innately unintelligent and uneducable and so not worthy of having such investments.

 

[Luther]

That was for a short period after WW2 when the rest of the world had beaten itself to such a pulp they didn’t even have an education system for a while. There was no competition. Now it’s not that we are doing it less- it’s that they have gotten back in their feet and doing much better and leaving us in the dust.

That’s because they’re not afraid of heavy public investment in the education of their population for fear of being called socialists; or because they still have questions about whether certain demographics in their population are innately unintelligent and uneducable and so not worthy of having such investments.

That was for a short period after WW2 when the rest of the world had beaten itself to such a pulp they didn’t even have an education system for a while.

Oh it had nothing to do with being the greatest country in the world(Rolling eyes)

 

[ataraxia]

Oh it had nothing to do with being the greatest country in the world(Rolling eyes)

It’s easy to be the greatest when everybody else has beaten themselves up to a pulp. At the end of World War II, the United States was the only developed country in the world that had not had its major cities bombed out and it’s industrial base completely pulverized by bombing. Don’t let it get to your head.

 

[Juks]

One of the biggest reasons is that this country has a deep mistrust of education and a strong anti-intellectual mindset. It prizes and worships money or celebrity far more than education. Just witness how many Americans took the word of Donald Trump over all the scientists and doctors on the planet- on everything from the pandemic to climate change. Advertisers know bringing in some famous actor or sports celebrity to speak to some social policy or public health issue does far more to convince the masses than some egghead wonk.

And that is really the symptom of a failing educationsystem in the first place

 

[Waddy]

What you know about "Socialism" would evidently not even fit a thimble. Socialism exists nowhere in Europe. If anywhere, it exists in the Far East - and then, only North Korea is stupid-enough to have kept it.

In Europe, Social Democracy is alive and well in all the 27 countries that constitute the European Union. Which today has a population-density about twice the size of the US. All these countries function under an economic system of Free Markets and capitalist financial mechanisms.

It just so happens that key elements of those "markets", like Healthcare and Education, are supported by national financing and management. Meaning what?

Well, for instance, I sent my kids to a post-secondary degree level at a cost of $1500 (in Euros) per year. And when I want to see a doctor, I pay $20, not $100, to get to sit in their office ...

You know, if I got cradle to grave benefits, and could retire at 50, I wouldn't mind being taxed like a European. The thing about you Europeans is you don't usually game the system for all you can get. I also notice you all aren't fat (I've been to Europe). You are also not all that ethnicically diverse within each country, though that is changing now with immigration. Here, to be an American is to game the system. From business to individuals you get all you can whenever you can. We are also the most diverse country on the planet, and the most tribal. That alone doesn't bode well for socialism here. But I don't want to be taxed like a European without the benefits. Here most of it is wasted or goes to special interests.

 

[Lafayette]

No, that’s not a problem. The very well educated are usually short sighted, autistic, and subject to delusions of grandeur.

There is no actual evidence the climate is in crisis, yet for many in the scientific community, devolving everyone into serfdom fits well into making them see themselves as heroes. There is no need to impose a scientific technocracy. That’s what communists and fascists did.

You've left "earth". What planet do you live on now?

Stay there ...

 

[bomberfox]

The above title from here: 18 REASONS THE U.S. EDUCATION SYSTEM IS FAILING

Excerpt:



Where there's a common will there is also a way.

America does not yet have that common-will for Education. And in this brave-new-world of Services Industry jobs that will sustain the economy it is key to a national solution for all ...

America barely has a common will for... anything really.... we are a hyper capitalist country that alienates people from their communities and people who are less fortunate.

 

[Lafayette]

NIGGARDS LIKE YOU

You know, if I got cradle to grave benefits, and could retire at 50, I wouldn't mind being taxed like a European. The thing about you Europeans is you don't usually game the system for all you can get. I also notice you all aren't fat (I've been to Europe). You are also not all that ethnicically diverse within each country, though that is changing now with immigration. Here, to be an American is to game the system. From business to individuals you get all you can whenever you can. We are also the most diverse country on the planet, and the most tribal. That alone doesn't bode well for socialism here. But I don't want to be taxed like a European without the benefits. Here most of it is wasted or goes to special interests.

What you know about Europe would fit a thimble. Two-weeks seeking out the major "sites to see" and some people think their experts on the place.

Socialism exists no where on this planet, except perhaps North Korea. Donald Dork sought the head of that country and decided not to touch it. The only smart-thing he ever did in four-years.

Attacking socialism in America is a ball people like you kick-around to assure yourselves that a deeply unfair American-existence is worth the effort - even if the poor down-and-out are left to fight poverty over a lifetime.

When you've got both National Health Care and very low cost Post-secondary Education one does not need to "game the system". That's an American pastime where both of those key attributes are lacking to the lower classes who need them most to boost themselves out of poverty and live a decently long existence ...

 

[Waddy]

NIGGARDS LIKE YOU



What you know about Europe would fit a thimble. Two-weeks seeking out the major "sites to see" and some people think their experts on the place.

Socialism exists no where on this planet, except perhaps North Korea. Donald Dork sought the head of that country and decided not to touch it. The only smart-thing he ever did in four-years.

Attacking socialism in America is a ball people like you kick-around to assure yourselves that a deeply unfair American-existence is worth the effort - even if the poor down-and-out are left to fight poverty over a lifetime.

When you've got both National Health Care and very low cost Post-secondary Education one does not need to "game the system". That's an American pastime where both of those key attributes are lacking to the lower classes who need them most to boost themselves out of poverty and live a decently long existence ...

While my father was in the military I lived in several different European cities. You have your warts. Europe isn't a utopia. But in general Frenchmen live in France, and Italians live in Italy, though there is a difference between north and south Italy. Socialism is right for you. But it won't work here. The social conditions are different. People here view government as a trough to feed at. Big business lobbies for all the tax breaks they can get, and individuals do the same. In Europe, especially Scandinavia, people go on unemployment and get off of it as soon as possible. Right now in the US there are 8,000,000,000 jobs unfilled but many Americans would rather stay on extended unemployment than take those jobs. Game the system for all it's worth. Americans are among the fattest people on earth, and universal health care would be hellishly expensive. In short, American lack the social responsibility that Europeans exhibit. For socialism to work, the population must be responsible. That ain't happenin' here.

 

[Lafayette]

IF IGNORANCE WERE BLISS

Socialism is right for you. But it won't work here. The social conditions are different. People here view government as a trough to feed at. Big business lobbies for all the tax breaks they can get, and individuals do the same.

I must repeat it again, because there is a subtlety that you (and many) are missing. Socialism exists nowhere in the world (except maybe North Korea).

What we have in Europe is called a Social Democracy. The definition of which goes like this:

Social democracy is a political, social and economic philosophy within socialism. As an economic ideology and policy regime, it is described by academics as advocating economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal-democratic polity and a capitalist-oriented mixed economy. The protocols and norms used to accomplish this involve a commitment to representative and participatory democracy, measures for income redistribution, regulation of the economy in the general interest and social-welfare provisions.

Hope this helps, because the lack of understanding on this forum about what is meant by Social Democracy is astounding.

And as regards that matter - if ignorance were bliss the Rabid-Right in America would think it's in heaven.

But it aint ...

 

[Waddy]

Social democracy is a political, social and economic philosophy within socialism. As an economic ideology and policy regime, it is described by academics as advocating economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal-democratic polity and a capitalist-oriented mixed economy. The protocols and norms used to accomplish this involve a commitment to representative and participatory democracy, measures for income redistribution, regulation of the economy in the general interest and social-welfare provisions.


You are confusing Socialism with Communism. As a group, Europe is a Social Democracy. Get it? Social as in Socialism...North Korea is a Communist country. BOTH are Socialist. On the spectrum of Socialism, social democracy (Europe) is at one end and Communism is at the other end. That's why Communists all claim to be Socialists.

BTW; a "mixed economy" is now being defined as one where government owns a part of every business. That being the now dominant Chinese model.

And quit with the juvenile put downs. Nobody cares. Just makes you look like a rabid partisan. If you want people to take you seriously, debate like a man. Let your intellect do your talking, not your emotions.

 

[Lafayette]

You are confusing Socialism with Communism. As a group, Europe is a Social Democracy. Get it? Social as in Socialism...North Korea is a Communist country. BOTH are Socialist. ons.

No, I'm not. I happen to live in a Social Democracy. But, you don't!

My Healthcare is nearly free. It costs me $15 to see a doctor - and in the US it costs you $100 (on average). Moreover, all further medications/operations are fully covered by National Healthcare in the EU.

There is simply NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO (US & EU) when it comes to Healthcare! Maybe you'll remember that the next time your in a hospital? And probably not!

As for post-secondary (university) schooling, it costs me $1500 per child per year. You're in for something like $25K per year in a private university and $10K if state-run ... !

PS: Oh yeah, I forgot. If you graduate from a university like HahVahd, everybody kisses your u-no-what. Well, of course, at a yearly-tuition of $54K that's probably no surprise.
PPS: Teacher salaries at Harvard University can range up to $94K.
PPPS: Average Income World Map here.

 

[calamity]

What?

I din't mention RACE

That was only you

(sigh)

Yeah, you only mentioned the era when segregation was rampant.

 

[calamity]

Not obsessed ..... but yeah

I'm more prepared than let say a guy like you

Preparing for something that is not gonna happen is not very smart.

 

[Luther]

Preparing for something that is not gonna happen is not very smart.

Yes, people said that about Noah(Lesson learned)

Then they said; Please let me in!!!!

 

[calamity]

Yes, people said that about Noah(Lesson learned)

Then they said; Please let me in!!!!

Noah?
...lol

 

[Luther]

Yeah, you only mentioned the era when segregation was rampant.

And was that Black women who was a human computer a part of that era/Education ?

Oh shit.....

 

[Luther]

Noah?
...lol

Yep

Your lesson is over

 

[calamity]

And was that Black women who was a human computer a part of that era/Education ?

Oh shit.....

You probably should do a little research before posting.

Johnson showed strong mathematical abilities from an early age. Because Greenbrier County did not offer public schooling for African-American students past the eighth grade, the Colemans arranged for their children to attend high school in Institute, West Virginia. This school was on the campus of West Virginia State College(WVSC).[10] Johnson was enrolled when she was ten years old.

Katherine Johnson - Wikipedia

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