Pope Paul not only condemned the slavery of Indians but also "all other peoples." In his phrase "unheard of before now", he seems to see a difference between this new form of slavery (i.e. racial slavery) and the ancient forms of just-title slavery. A few days before, he also issued a Brief, entitled Pastorale Officium to Cardinal Juan de Tavera of Toledo, which warned the Catholic faithful of excommunication for participating in slavery.
Unfortunately Pope Paul made reference to the King of Castile and Aragon in this Brief. Under political pressure, the Pope later retracted this Brief but did not annul the Bull. It is interesting to note that even though he retracted his Brief, Popes Gregory XIV, Urban VIII and Benedict XIV still recognized and confirmed its authority against slavery and the slave trade.
Popes Gregory XIV (Cum Sicuti, 1591), Urban VIII (Commissum Nobis, 1639) and Benedict XIV (Immensa Pastorum, 1741) also condemned slavery and the slave trade. Unlike the earlier papal letters, these excommunications were more directed towards the clergy than the laity. In 1839, Pope Gregory XVI issued a Bull, entitled In Supremo. Its main focus was against slave trading, but it also clearly condemned racial slavery:
We, by apostolic authority, warn and strongly exhort in the Lord faithful Christians of every condition that no one in the future dare bother unjustly, despoil of their possessions, or reduce to slavery Indians, Blacks or other such peoples. [Ibid., pp.101]
Unfortunately a few American bishops misinterpreted this Bull as condemning only the slave trade and not slavery itself. Bishop John England of Charleston actually wrote several letters to the Secretary of State under President Van Buren explaining that the Pope, in In Supremo, did not condemn slavery but only the slave trade (Ibid., pp. 67-68).
With all these formal condemnations, it is a shame that the Popes were largely ignored by the Catholic laity and clergy. Two Catholic nations were largely involved with slave trafficking. Many Catholics at that time owned or sold slaves. Even some Catholic bishops during the 19th-century appeared to support slavery. The Popes were so ignored that some people today claim that they were silent. These sins brought great scandal to Christ’s Church.
you do recognize this is a Sedevacantist group that is publishing this rot.
Sedevacantism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your source is a bunch of schismatics.
Who are you addressing?
:doh Sorry...I meant the OP...The first site after Wiki on such the search he suggests is Popes For Slavery - Romanus Pontifex by Pope Nicholas V --and it has the gist of the "information" he presents. That group is schismatic.
Thanks.
Is "schismatic" another way for you to say "not REAL Christians, like us Catholics"?
Dear Felicity,
So you agree that the 1452 Papal authorization of Slavery of un-believers, forever is accurate. The Catholic Church does not deny the authenticity of the English Translation.
You seem to say that the people who publish the 1452 Papal Bull are the ones who are wrong.
Is there any way a Pope today, could write another Papal Bull stating that "The 18 June 1452 Papal Writing authorizing Slavery is Hereby Revoked?"
No...schismatics are Christians too--just not in union with the the Church.
...why the unnecessary nasty statement?
Their slavery was different from the slavery of the Bible. They had no civilized rules, protecting rights of slaves, nothing like rules of the Bible. Africans and Native Americans used to eat their slaves, they used to eat even their relatives.
No one today cites any Christian authority supporting slavery.
It is wrong and the practice should be abolished.
I believe the Egyptian book of the dead seems to have some of the items that may represent the rights of slave. In Christianity even their supreme leader Christ had been quoted by the writers that you can punish a slave if they don't do their duties that they knew of. Most of the clergy would not even include these in their readings.
The study or history is to learn from missed chances, or slips into temptation.
The Catholic Church has stood for many fine priciples,in varous difficult situations.
Probably Pope Nicholas V did not imagine the trans-Atlantic slave trade in 1452, or how it grew, or the moral dilmnas resulting form his decree in 1452.
The first crusade illustrates another opportunity to attempt to negotiate peace. There are many instances where the Catholic Church has recommended seeking peace.
Pope Urban II, had an opporunity to seek peace in 1095,in Anatolia (Turkey), but instead raised an army to retake Anatolia, which was the start of 9 crusades over 250 years of war with the Muslims. Would the relations of the West with the Muslim world be different today, if Pope Urban II had sough and establsihed peaceful relations of trade and enlightenment?
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I agree with the conclusion, but disagree with your premise, if the Bible is considered to be any kind of authority. As politic_analyst pointed out, the Bible has numerous reference sanctioning slavery, as well as specific instructions on their treatment (it's OK to beat them, but you shouldn't beat them to death).
Neo barbarians
Atheists are fighting for a society of people where Christianity would be in a position of something that is wrong, invalid. Anyone who did search for could see the scale of the atheistic attack on the Bible, the scale of lies and perversion.
‘’The Bible is sanctioning slavery’’ is another perversion and intellectual pornography.
The position of the Bible and Christianity in the world of violent cannibals, perverts, slave traders, pagans and Muslims has been very simple and clear all the time, as well as recorded actions of Christianity in regards to the world surrounding Christianity. The vast experience of humanity, documented and photographed shows clearly that when atheists rich their goal and establish such a society of their dream they immediately establish the most inhumane and bloody slavery one can only imagine. Marx, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao – they all perverted history
But they could not reduce Christianity because G-d had prepared his people and had showed them the way out of slavery. And Christ is still the light, the way and the truth, as he promised.
Genesis 15 As the sun was setting, Abram fell into a deep sleep, and a thick and dreadful darkness came over him. Then the LORD said to him, "Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and mistreated four hundred years.
The Bible was given to the nation of slaves and mistreated slaves, to those who did not question merciful G-d and who did not mistreat their slaves. All other nations were practicing unruly, violent slavery, all of them were mistreating their salves, sanctioning slavery and even eating their slaves. The Bible of the enslaved people was the starting point of freedom; but then there are still too many neo-slaves who are longing for restoration of slavery by attacking the Bible. As a rule they are also speaking on the side of Muslims attacking G-d’s people because the Bible is the way out of slavery, but they do not want people to see the way out. Was slavery good for G-d’s people, or it was bad and they rejected G-d? Were people better off by being slaves of G-d’s people or they were better off by being slaves of somebody else, were they better off by being slave owners in all other nations? The question remains the same - what was the choice?
Sure, in some literal interpretation it is OK to beat fools, children and slaves:
Ex 21:20
"If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished,
Pr 23:14
Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.
2Sa 7:14
I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men.
Pr 29:15
The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.
Pr 23:13
Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.
Pr 26:3
A whip for the horse, a halter for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of fools!
I guess. fools have their reasons to dislike the rules of the Bible…Ex 23:12
"Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and the alien as well, may be refreshed.
Ex 21:32
If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned
. Ex 21:29
If, however, the bull has had the habit of goring and the owner has been warned but has not kept it penned up and it kills a man or woman, the bull must be stoned and the owner also must be put to death.
Le 22:11
But if a priest buys a slave with money, or if a slave is born in his household, that slave may eat his food.
De 23:15
If a slave has taken refuge with you, do not hand him over to his master.
De 32:36
The Lord will judge his people and have compassion on his servants when he sees their strength is gone and no one is left, slave or free.
1Co 7:22 - For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave.
1Co 12:13
For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
The Bible is ‘’sanctioning’’ slavery? It is sanctioning it as much as it is sanctioning perversion, adultery, lies and perjury:
1Ti 1:10
for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
The Bible speaks for itself, but still neo-barbarians have a need to pervert it and miss all simple points. God gave people a choice and people fallen into violence, slavery, and murder. God gave the Bible to his people as a way out, and he even put them in slavery for 400 years, and then sent his son to die on the cross in order to show the way out of their misery, out of their own slavery. Because G-d is perfect and merciful.
Pr 12:24
Diligent hands will rule, but laziness ends in slave labor.
Neo barbarians are still slaves as the result of laziness, and their dream is to turn people with diligent hands into their slaves and to become masters. Atheists are fighting for a society of people where Christianity would be in a position of something that is wrong, invalid. Anyone who did search for could see the scale of the atheistic attack on the Bible, the scale of lies and perversion. ‘’The Bible is sanctioning slavery’’ is another perversion and intellectual pornography. The position of the Bible and Christianity in the world of violent cannibals, perverts, slave traders, pagans and Muslims has been very simple and clear all the time, as well as recorded actions of Christianity in regards to the world surrounding Christianity. The vast experience of humanity, documented and photographed shows clearly that when atheists rich their goal and establish such a society of their dream they immediately establish the most inhumane and bloody slavery one can only imagine. Marx, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao – they all perverted history, Christianity and the Bible. But they could not reduce Christianity because G-d had prepared his people and had showed them the way out of slavery. And Christ is still the light, the way and the truth, as he promised.
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