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The biggest wealth redistribution has gone to the federal government.
I have proven that there has been a massive redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy. It is a fact.
Is it really the rich speculators fault or just the entirety of the people who participated?
I mean, the signs were pretty clear that it was a bubble, before it popped.
most of the "facts" i see relate to the top .01% or the top 400 or those who make 100+ million a year and yet all the solutions target anyone making over 200K a year
color me cynical about the left who whine about the mega wealthy while trying to jack up taxes on everyone in the upper middle class and higher. the facts surrounding those .01% do not project realistically to even someone making a few million a year and certainly not on someone in the 300K-2 million range (ie 98% of the top 1 percent)
lets see-if the top make more and more money how does that wipe the middle class out?
It is not true that the only solutions proposed target those who make 200k/yr. Eliminating the tax breaks for private jets do not target those making 200k/yr
color me cynical about the reight who whine about taxing the mega wealthy while trying to jack up taxes on everyone in the middle class and lower.
no its not and we would like to see some actual proof. not some graph that some left wing think tank created but some real evidence of causation and facts supporting that.
It's not about making more money. It's about redistributing wealth from the middle class to the wealthy
Paying off politicians to gain tax cuts and deductions and govt subsidies is not quite the same thing as "earning" more money; it's more akin to stealing more money
The biggest wealth redistribution has gone to the federal government.
Yes, it is and I have posted plenty of proof. You just reject facts for spurious reasons because they undermine the rightwings quest to redistribute income
1) most of us who are sensible realize spending is the problem and there should be massive spending cuts before there is talk about taxing anyone more. jacking up taxes on the rich will only encourage the dems to spend more and the other classes to fall for their lies that more spending is possible now that taxes on the rich are higher
2) the only value of tax hikes is to impose some pain on those who have no clue that government spending costs money. that of course are those who are paying no or almost no income taxes
and they then distribute it to the wealthy
the middle classes are paying less of the income tax burden than at any time in modern history. they provide most of the votes, politicians are not going to upset them. no party is calling for tax hikes on the middle class
1) The rightwingers are not sensible. Never have been.
2) Th eobly value of tax cuts is to increase the pain of the middle class by forcing them to shoulder a greater share of the burden. The rightwingers have no clue that govt spending costs money, which is why they want the rich to get a free ride on the backs of the middle class that created this nations wealth
the middle classes are paying more of the tax burden than at any time in modern history. they provide most of the votes, politicians are not going to upset them and this fact of democracy bothers the rightwing who despise democracy.
you just make up lies. the rich gain income because by definition if you are rich you have money left over after paying taxes and expenses to invest. how do you stop that? either you confiscate their wealth (which would destroy the country as they hide assets overseas) or they unite and crush those who would try to do that (there is no class war by the rich since they are almost equally split with many of the uber wealthy being welfare socialists) or the country's investment mechanism has fallen apart
yeah the wealthy are getting lots of handouts from the federal government
I have been alive for 52 years and handling my own taxes for more than 30 and I cannot remember getting a single handout from the government
yet you keep lying because right now the top 1 and top 5% carry more of the federal income tax than at any time in the last 60 years and stuff like state taxes have not seen the rich getting any real breaks since sales tax cannot be lowered just for the rich,same with property taxes etc
the rich gain income by bribing politicians to legalize their theft. if you are rich you have money left over after paying taxes and expenses to buy politicians. how do you stop that? either you make them pay their fair share or they unite and crush those who would try to do that
You keep making accusations when you should be making an argument. the top 1 and top 5% carry less of the federal tax than at any time in the last 60 years and stuff like state taxes have seen the rich getting real breaks since sales taxes are regressive, same with property taxes
Agreed
Your failing memory is not the issue.
The poor gain income by being seduced by politicians to vote those politicians power and from that the politicians steal wealth and gain power that begets more wealth.
I want you to unite and try to crush the rich. truly
slightly modifying my posts is childish and its a lie
more lies at what other time did the top 1% pay almost 40% of the income tax?
if you don't have the stones to tell people what you do or how old you are making personal comments like that is pretty lame. tell me what direct payment have I received from the government for being wealthy?