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Hehe some funny ones, but also a few that might still happen.
The tablet thing for example... Tablets might not be DOA, but neither was the netbook. There is a shift going on in the market. I could easily see big tablets be replaced by hybrid PCs, as people realize that not only are big tablets heavy, but they are highly limiting as a productivity and creation tool. That is why a system like Windows 8 can be very dangerous for companies with no touch enabled true operating system... especially in the corporate world. Lots of companies have invested in iPads, but are realizing now that people still use their PC for creation and real work, so the question is when they will take the plunge and combine the two and hence save money.
You are also already seeing a shift away from large tablets to smaller 7 inch tablets (which makes Jobs comment funny), simply because people are realizing that having a 10 inch tablet is not exactly as "mobile" as they thought. Plus having a 7 inch with the same or better capability of the 10 inch tablet at a much lower price, will always make people think twice. I would always recommend a 7 inch tablet over a 10 inch one.
Oh and Steve Ballmer was right.. the original iPhone was a flop... that is why Apple replaced it pretty fast with a 3G model.
But just think.. a year ago, the iPad was ruling supreme with a massive market share.. now it is heading the same way as the iPhone world wide... down down down and Android tablets are out selling the iPad... in one freaking year. The electronics industry changes so fast..
They had the iPhone one in their but they forgot the anti-iPad climate that surrounded its launch in 2010.
Even now, with millions of iPads sold, I still read a lot of hatred and doom about Apple on PC websites.
And hellOOOOO number one Apple doomsayer! :lamo
You've modified your (i)tune in the last few years Pete - from predictions of failure to it'll not be number one anymore..
They had the iPhone one in their but they forgot the anti-iPad climate that surrounded its launch in 2010.
Even now, with millions of iPads sold, I still read a lot of hatred and doom about Apple on PC websites.
. Apple is not even breaking 5 market share on phones in China... hell it barely breaks 4%.
The tablet thing for example... Tablets might not be DOA, but neither was the netbook. There is a shift going on in the market. I could easily see big tablets be replaced by hybrid PCs, as people realize that not only are big tablets heavy, but they are highly limiting as a productivity and creation tool.
That is why a system like Windows 8 can be very dangerous for companies with no touch enabled true operating system... especially in the corporate world. Lots of companies have invested in iPads, but are realizing now that people still use their PC for creation and real work, so the question is when they will take the plunge and combine the two and hence save money.
You are also already seeing a shift away from large tablets to smaller 7 inch tablets (which makes Jobs comment funny), simply because people are realizing that having a 10 inch tablet is not exactly as "mobile" as they thought. Plus having a 7 inch with the same or better capability of the 10 inch tablet at a much lower price, will always make people think twice. I would always recommend a 7 inch tablet over a 10 inch one.
They had the iPhone one in their but they forgot the anti-iPad climate that surrounded its launch in 2010.
Even now, with millions of iPads sold, I still read a lot of hatred and doom about Apple on PC websites.
My favourite was the reviews of the iPhone that praised it to no end, and when they went to the competition they found that not having an SD card slot was a massive negative for the competition but not for the iPhone? WTF? They still do it with the Google Nexus devices, which dont have an SD slot... and yet the iPhone nor iPad also dont have it, and yet it does not count down in those reviews... freaking hypocrites.
Maybe, or big tablets are on their way out simply because many people have found the 7~8" tablet a better choice for consumer use? Remember that the iPad Mini, despite being a clearly inferior product outside of price and weight is cannibalizing its way through 9.7" iPad sales. This is partially a reason why the rumors on a Retina iPad Mini in certain circles are being treated as just that: rumors. The margin damage that a Retina iPad would have on Apple will be considerable. Also, I still believe that people don't use tablets for content creation. If you buy a tablet, you're generally not intending to do real work for most things. There are some industries that can, but they're mostly reviewing documents on them and it works for them.
Insurance agencies, engineering blueprints in the field, sales at the retail level, big tablets work well in those fields where content creation isn't important. Content creation is still done on laptops and desktops and will be for the foreseeable future.
I doubt it. Touch screen hybrids are fricken expensive where iPad 2s aren't.
And it makes no sense to buy content creating devices for people who don't create content.
Battery life on these hybrids isn't good compared to the 12+ hours on an iPad. My old office had a few touch screen laptops and everyone hated them.
It is, I agree and I have always said that. Problem with the iPad mini is it is too wide to hold in one hand comfortably, especially if you are an average sized woman. The problem is, that despite having the iPad mini, retina or not, the only people buying them are people who already own iPads.. their market share has fallen, not increased. So it is the Android 7 inch market that is leading the charge and here it comes down to price and more than often how they actually fit in your hand.
Have you ever been to a store where the iPad mini is close to the 7 inch Android tablets? It is funny to watch, when people go over to the Apple stand (because it is Apple after all.. big signs and so on) pick up the iPad mini and start playing with it.. then they see the other 7 inches and go there and realize suddenly that they are much better .. holding wise.
Not if you can combine the two into one product, which is what is happening with the Windows 8 ultrabooks and hybrid laptops. Plus as you stated above.. 7 inch > 10 inch tablets.
Are they? You can get a hybrid for less than an iPad. If you want a hybrid with an i5 or i7, then yes it gets more expensive, but you are getting a full computer, not a handicapped tablet. Plus iPad + keyboard = about the same price.
That I agree with. That is why the tablet is so "brilliant" for people who only need a consumption device and only need to use it for limited content creation.. email and surfing. But the tablet will always have one major negative.. no physical keyboard and for many people that is important. I have tried to get people to buy tablets when they need their laptops replaced, because they could get a cheap 7 inch tablet vs a semi expensive laptop.. in many cases it all falls apart when they see there is no physical keyboard. This is people who only use the laptop for Facebook and email and a bit of banking.
Well, you cant content create on an iPad in any sensible way.. so the 12 hour battery time is a bit mute is it not?
Plus there are several hybrids with 14+ hours of battery life and they cost about the same as an Apple Air and are real computers with a real operating system and are designed for content creation. ... the iPad aint.
What is up with this? Is there some kind of agreement that virtually no one discusses USB Hosting when it comes to the Nexus 7 and 10 when comparing them to Apple iPads and the SD card problem in their articles?
It's all over XDA and the web about how OTG Hosting fixes this problem but you rarely ever see it in a Cnet or a PC world or any of those. Does Google have some side talk with writers not to talk about it?
There's a fricken Kickstarter for a product that gives tablets and phones that lack an SD slot, and SD slot! What gives?
Not necessarily. I know people who balked at the $499 iPad price but bought at the $329 iPad Mini price. The Mini is clearly a reaction to losing control of the small tablet market. There's a fair amount of people who don't buy based on specifications, or what they can do with it, but on status and emotion. Android is never going to convince those people on rational terms why Apple may not be their best choice.
Not really. My local Bestbuy doesn't seem to have this problem. Generally people either stick with the Android from the start or the Apple. But then again, Bestbuy shoppers aren't the most knowledgeable and I don't go to Bestbuy often. Usually it's when I have some time to burn and I'm near one.
Maybe, but if they don't need the content creation capabilities, it's not worth buying them. Also, looking at blueprints is way easier on a 10".
A good hybrid isn't the same price. Plus you don't need a keyboard for what many iPads are being used in business for. The whole mobile payments deal doesn't need a keyboard. That's a really good use of a either an iPhone or an iPad. You can display ads and menus and use it also for payments all without needing content creation. Smart move whoever thought of that.
Even typing on a bluetooth keyboard or a keyboard attachment is pretty bad compared to a full size keyboard. This is why I think lawyers will never go to tablets. It's just too difficult. What is interesting is Google Voice. For people who only use Facebook, some banking and Email, you can easily do what you need via voice typing. Siri is so behind compared to Google Voice these days.
But what does a sales person need a hybrid for? Nordstrom works on iPhones. They can call up inventory and make sales right from the phone. In some ways, they're good candidates for smaller tablets that can show inventory pictures they may not have immediately on the premises but can be shipped to the client.
The hard professional jobs of accounting, law, engineering, architecture, and sciences won't go tablet centric, but sales, insurance and a few others can.
I work in civil engineering and use AutoCAD, and I don't see laptops and desktops being replaced anytime soon.Insurance agencies, engineering blueprints in the field, sales at the retail level, big tablets work well in those fields where content creation isn't important. Content creation is still done on laptops and desktops and will be for the foreseeable future.
-- Apple in my opinion, has moved from a rising star into a cash cow. It's no longer the innovator, and it's now trying to hold on to its place rather than disrupt everyone else and take their lunch and Wall Street pounded on it for that --
I have never stated that Apple will fail ... I have stated that the markets will change away from Apple and that has happened in every market but the US.
Like it or not Android dwarfs Apple in sales and marketshare in every country on the planet minus the US. Apple is not even breaking 5 market share on phones in China... hell it barely breaks 4%.
Hehe some funny ones, but also a few that might still happen.
The tablet thing for example... Tablets might not be DOA, but neither was the netbook. There is a shift going on in the market. I could easily see big tablets be replaced by hybrid PCs, as people realize that not only are big tablets heavy, but they are highly limiting as a productivity and creation tool. That is why a system like Windows 8 can be very dangerous for companies with no touch enabled true operating system... especially in the corporate world. Lots of companies have invested in iPads, but are realizing now that people still use their PC for creation and real work, so the question is when they will take the plunge and combine the two and hence save money.
You are also already seeing a shift away from large tablets to smaller 7 inch tablets (which makes Jobs comment funny), simply because people are realizing that having a 10 inch tablet is not exactly as "mobile" as they thought. Plus having a 7 inch with the same or better capability of the 10 inch tablet at a much lower price, will always make people think twice. I would always recommend a 7 inch tablet over a 10 inch one.
Oh and Steve Ballmer was right.. the original iPhone was a flop... that is why Apple replaced it pretty fast with a 3G model.
But just think.. a year ago, the iPad was ruling supreme with a massive market share.. now it is heading the same way as the iPhone world wide... down down down and Android tablets are out selling the iPad... in one freaking year. The electronics industry changes so fast..
I work in civil engineering and use AutoCAD, and I don't see laptops and desktops being replaced anytime soon.
I can see laptop and desktop sales declining in an overall sense and becoming a niche market, but for industries like mine they are still the best option. I can't imagine doing my work on a tablet.
I have no idea, and yea it is a bit annoying. It would solve a bunch of issues with Android if it was by default allowed. Although there is an app that gives you access to some aspects of OTG.. costs 4 bucks I think. Means you can access files and play them I think. Not tried it yet.