- Jul 31, 2010
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Come on John.....these are not RIGHT WING Conspiracy theories. They are all from a far out there radio show called "Coast to Coast" hosted by a Bush hater. All their callers and guests are total wackos. Alex Jones ring any bells? He is not one of us even though Chris Mathews tried to give him to us on that special he put together.
Hating bush is not inherently a liberal view. Alex Jones and George Noory are both paleoconservatives or paleolibertarians. No doubt most self-proclaimed conservatives will not see them as being one of them, but that is primarily because the values of leading conservatives have changed.
At the same time the SPLC is clearly just trying to smear the right because there are many adherents to these theories on the left.
Of course the claims about right-wing support is aimed more at providing a viable hated target. Note how it makes several mentions of how these theories implicate Jews and clearly suggests all conspiracy theorists are simply racists and anti-semites. The ADL has made similar absurd accusations.
Some of these are hardly even absurd claims to make either. No doubt there are plans and scenarios in place that involve declaring martial law throughout the United States. Many of the things mentioned would inevitably follow from that. FEMA was responsible for devising a system for continuity of government during the Cold War and I doubt those plans have been scrapped. In a state of martial law confiscating guns from the populace would be inevitable and putting people in concentration camps an obvious step. Bringing in foreign troops to implement such policies is actually publicly envisioned in various agreements we have with neighbors.
Our leaders have long sought the formation of some North American Union and while Corsi was overly paranoid in his predictions there were many academics and government officials calling for a big step forward in integration by this year, though it hasn't materialized.
Also anyone who thinks the Federal Reserve doesn't vest the big banks with authority over our economy is likely being ignorant by choice. These are theories that far from being absurd are in fact quite realistic. Beyond that 9-11 has a lot of issues suggestive of some form of conspiracy, potentially including it being a false-flag operation.
The SPLC always manages to aggravate me whenever I read something they are saying about the "right." They are always trying to associate violent, racist, crazy groups to conservatives or the tea party.
I hate it when people try to make Alex Jones and Noorey out to be conservatives. I was honestly thinking Noorey was a liberal, but whatever he is, he's not a conservative.
6 - 9-11 : It's not a 'the joos did it' issue.... and if you google search '5 dancing israelis', you'll see the PROOF that Mossad was "documenting the event" (if they tasked people to document the event they had to at least know there was going to be an event to document)
8 - HAARP : The actual inventor of HAARP left the project calling it the building of a veritable 'death ray'.... but one can't conclusively PROVE that any given earthquake was the result of HAARP because earthquakes do happen naturally as well...
10 - NAU : What this writer fails to realize is that the SPP IS the treaty that creates the NAU... and it's been in effect for over 5 years now... much the same way that the European Union was a legal reality 48 YEARS before the european union was a PUBLIC reality.
Actually there is evidence Israel knew and warned the U.S. about an impending attack. I am not so sure there was any Mossad involvement.
Honestly, I just want to know where is the evidence HAARP is such a weapons project. There is a lot of science behind the use of electromagnetic radiation to create adverse weather conditions and earthquakes, but my main issue is proof it has in fact occurred or that these facilities were set up for that purpose.
The SPP is not a treaty of any kind. It did not create a North American Union nor is it capable of creating one. Basically the SPP was a dialogue to discuss changes that might be implemented. While it sought to implement elements of a common market it has not really been that successful. Also what is this about the EU being a legal reality 48 years before the EU was a public reality? That would seem to be saying it was in existence since 1945, which is just plain absurd.
The Mossad agents went on an israeli talk show and admitted to the fact that they were professionally tasked to "document the event" (as in that quoted part is a direct quote, and the rest is a paraphrase)
Honestly, I'm not on long enough to search for it at the moment, but try to find interviews with the inventor of HAARP once he was removed from the project, and he will tell you in his words how it was based off of Tesla's work and what Tesla himself called a 'death ray'...
I know that the SPP was 'sold' as simply discussion.... it was more like a 'strategy meeting towards implementation'... much like what was agreed upon in the 1950's, while creating the framework for the EU, required political implementation... and wasn't until many decades later broached to the public.
This is how political reality is created...
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Sorry for ranting on this point, it's just such a common tactic that I can't read newspapers without seeing this pattern of manipulation.
I don't doubt this part, but I do not think this indicates Mossad involvement in the attacks themselves. Mossad is known to have engaged in false-flag terror attacks, but there is not much I have read indicating they had any involvement in 9-11. There are some mentions of bombs in vans that involved Mossad supposedly, but that doesn't indicate much to me either.
Not that I would rule out Mossad involvement, but there is a lot more evidence implicating other foreign agencies and domestic agencies.
Are you referring to Bernard Eastlund? I just read some of the stuff about him, and I am actually intrigued about this. For one he patented several devices that are similar to HAARP and one suggested its potential use in weather modification. More interesting however is his patents are apparently owned by APTI, which was bought be BAE that is currently the primary contractor for HAARP.
If the patents are legitimate then I would have to agree, given some of the technical capabilities of HAARP, that it quite probably is a cover for weather modification research. More interesting is that APTI's former parent company ARCO is now a subsidiary of BP.
Well, I assume you are talking about the group that later drafted the Treaty of Rome, which created the European Economic Community and with it the European Commission and European Parliament. I would agree that amounts to the legal formation of a political and economic union. The SPP, however, has not led to any such treaties save for relatively minor agreements that probably would have happened either way and none have had the considerable legal effect of the Treaty of Rome.
Certainly the formation of a North American Union was and continues to be a goal of the elites in the United States, Canada, and Mexico, but as of yet they have not made the first major legal step. Should Obama ever manage his planned renegotiation of NAFTA that could be a more effective and plausible step toward that goal.
Did David Icke come up with that himself or did he rip it off someone else like the rest of his beliefs? Honestly, if he came up with the problem-reaction-solution concept then it is probably his only legitimate contribution to society.
Ok, IMHO, I don't think Mossad had a BIG TASK to do, but Israel IS home to the corporations that handle and document virtually every phone call made... at least in the western world. So, because of that, which if I really had to could still find the news reports of this (and the Mossad agents video can be found on youtube still for sure)...because of that, I would believe that Mossad had some form of intelligence role only.
I know you're bringing up David Icke in a moment, so I'll mention this about him... his philosphy boils down to that reality is simply vibrations and frequencies, and we have a biological computer that reads a small range of these frequencies and relates that in a way that is interpreted as the real world... and that the visible realm is still only a small fraction of the entire array of potential frequencies... I cannot agree with him that there are other entities that exist within a different frequency range that is capable of communing with humans on this plane, simply because I've never seen ANY legitimate evidence.
That's the thing, though I don't KNOW about how much of HAARPS capabilities are a reality, and how much is simply patented but not real... even the claims and the process of how this works and knowing how HAARP operates (on a layman's level), that it doesn't seem all that much of a stretch... though it is scary how with this sort of machine, it's scary to think of the potential that an outside force can come into your mind and control your thoughts...
I don't know if the NAU will ever be complete... at least with our generation... UNLESS, the intention is to allow the Arizona situation to exacerbate into the SouthWests 'situation'... and then create an 'amnesty' which would include a treaty with Mexico to bring them into the union, and Canada will be brought into this union once the economic problems in the US carry over the border... I don't expect there to be too much resistance to the idea from Canadians either... and well, if there is, then the police brass will just send in some anarchists and they'll beat the crap out of anyone who speaks ou, while the PM will sign away canadians sovereignty.
I do want to clarify, I have heard David Icke's speeches, interviews, etc, but I'm not some devout believer... but I tend to attribute the 'lizard people' as a more simple pyschological analogy for a person that is 'cold blooded' as the expression goes, overall he's an intriguing character, but he does say some stuff that I simply have not seen proper evidence for...