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Once again, out of context and twisting words.
If that is your intent I have no real issue with it. It just some people seem to expect these things to create some groundswell of change among adherents
Translated: you can't rebut the plain language of the Hebrew Scriptures. I thought not. Fundies seem almost to be blinded by God about it.
There is nothing to rebut in the Scripture, the rebut was to your interpretation of what that means.
Yeah, the point is, you can't.
"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
Let the glossing begin!
Once again, nowhere does it talk about sex-slaves as you claim.
We all know that's not going to happen. Indeed, the fundies seem almost blinded and cannot seem to even see the plain language of these texts.
you would be surprised. I remember some research (though much more questionable) recently released indicated that the translation for virgins in the hadith about martyrdom was about raisins. Talking to some people about it, you would get the impression that we finally found the trump card not only to deal with islamic extremism, but those in the west who over react to it.
But yes, this thread is going the full direction I expected, though you haven't been labeled a monkey-faced demon, yet
Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one, so what the bible says doesn't really matter.
Rubbish.
2 Samuel 12:8
8 Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you out of the hand of Saul. And I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your arms and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah. And if this were too little, I would add to you as much more.
[Plain language: God says he would have given David even more wives if he wanted them.]
Deuteronomy 17:14–20
14 “When you come to the land that the Lord your God is giving you, and you possess it and dwell in it and then say, z‘I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me,’ 15 you may indeed set a king over you whom the Lord your God will choose. One from among your brothers you shall set as king over you. You may not put a foreigner over you, who is not your brother. 16 Only he must not acquire many horses for himself or cause the people to return to Egypt in order to acquire many horses, since the Lord has said to you, You shall never return that way again.’ 17 And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold.
[Plain language: the king gets silver and gold and horse and multiple wives -- just not too many]
What do you think the references to virgin girls is about? Playtime at the local kindergarten?
Gen 16: Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian slave named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, “The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.”
Did anybody ask the slave Hagar?
What do you think the references to virgin girls is about? Playtime at the local kindergarten?
Gen 16: Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian slave named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, “The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.”
Did anybody ask the slave Hagar?
Rubbish? What are you, British?
Actually it doesn’t say he would “add more wives”. It says that in addition to all of the things I have given you I would have given you even more if you considered it too little. God was chastising David for his sin but, somehow, I think you already know that.
As I stated earlier, polygamy existed. This was not God’s ideal but he does recognize that it existed. And, as you pointed out, they should not have “too many wives” so that their hearts would not turn away from God.
And that is exactly what happened to Solomon (1 Kings 11).
And you do realize God did not favor that correct? Also, the girls would be brought up in their culture and married later.
The gloss. That's all the deniers have. The words always means something other than the plain meaning when they mean something the fundies can't handle -- like God saying kill all the boys and rape the virgins, or David, I'd give you more wives it would help.
That's why fundies and literalists are a joke, if not heretics.
Wow.
It never ceases to amaze me of all the hate welled-up inside of bigots. The above is a perfect example of a post where there is no room for thoughtful discussion. Only hate, vitriol, bitterness, contempt, maliciousness, viciousness and lies.
Actually, it’s pretty clear as to who the joke is.
Just quit engaging him. He is only interested in mocking others, not discussion.
You're quite right.
Funny, I thought there was a rule against trolls.
Wow.
It never ceases to amaze me of all the hate welled-up inside of bigots. The above is a perfect example of a post where there is no room for thoughtful discussion. Only hate, vitriol, bitterness, contempt, maliciousness, viciousness and lies.
Actually, it’s pretty clear as to who the joke is.
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