1,015 deaths in America

[CaughtInThe]

I have no doubt that we are looking at other countries and are using that information in our own response.

maybe our states are. we still have no National plan from our President (who isn't a leader).

 

[Linc]

There were 1,015 COVID 19 deaths in America 2 days ago. That's over 185,000 deaths total. UK had 8; France had 20; Germany had 1; Canada had 6; South Korea had 3; Could we have done better and saved more lives?

Coronavirus Update (Live): 25,229,932 Cases and 847,706 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

1. Seven-day averages are nearly constant at around 1,000 deaths a day, with five of the days being over 1,000 and the weekend days being around 500.

2. Conspiracy theories of only 6% being true COVID deaths are believed by 40% of the voters. We’re still a 40-40-20 country. CT of Antifa plane. National Enquirer Trump

 

[The AntiDonald]

You thinks confused. You have no idea how the death rate is calculated in other countries. Neither do I. We don't even know the number of dead here due to Covid: its likely much larger than what is reported.

There is no cogent argument that supports giving the white house donkey four more years to keep killing Americans. None.

In the unspoken words of conservatives, the consensus used to be, 'what the hell, most of the people dying are from democrat states and large cities'. That's beginning to change as the mid-west is now on the rise and expected to fuel the next big wave.

 

[jonny5]

In the unspoken words of conservatives, the consensus used to be, 'what the hell, most of the people dying are from democrat states and large cities'. That's beginning to change as the mid-west is now on the rise and expected to fuel the next big wave.

Yeah, but liberals want more people to die to make orange man look bad. So yay for you!

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Me thinks they don't "Inflate" the death numbers like we do

Methinks that you are talking through your ...

 

[iguanaman]

Me thinks they don't "Inflate" the death numbers like we do

Yes, if someone is overweight he was already going to die anyway. The virus did him a favor. Dying is good actually.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Well Swing

The 7 day death rate is still lower that it was in April?

Look at your graph

Indeed it is

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even if mine doesn't go back that far. Not only that, but it shows signs of coming back down from what it was a month ago.

That, however has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with how the US is doing when compared to other countries

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does it?

Nor does it have anything to do with how well the US is doing when you consider either "ability to pay" or "amount normally spent on healthcare"

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does it?

 

[Mason66]

In the unspoken words of conservatives, the consensus used to be, 'what the hell, most of the people dying are from democrat states and large cities'. That's beginning to change as the mid-west is now on the rise and expected to fuel the next big wave.

"Unspoken Words"

That sounds like you just making **** up.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Sin and disease was not invented by natural selection, it entered into the world when Adam sinned in the Garden.

Thank you for the complete scientific explanation of why COVID-19 happened.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Hindsight is 20/20. Could the chinese have done better and saved 800k global lives? Sure. In hindsight you could have always done better.

The US is still lower in per capita deaths than Peru, Spain, Chile, UK, Italy, Sweden, Brazil. So we did save more lives.

Indeed it is

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but you forgot to mention San Marino, Belgium, and Andorra.

And Saint Martin saved almost ten times as many - right?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

According to one active duty nurse in NY, the hospital where she worked was mishandling patients in a way that almost guaranteed they would die, and quickly. Rumor had it the hospital got a large sum of money for every COVID patient it admitted, giving administrators incentive to keep the bodies moving.

Thank you for providing the sound scientific basis upon which you founded your conclusions.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Does the new CDC information that only 6% of covid deaths were caused ONLY by covid change the blame game?

Only if you are a graduate of the BS (Statistics) program at The University of Numerology.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

It is time to follow Trump's lead and open the economy back up before it totally collapses.

I do have to admit that opening the economy back up the way that Mr. Trump wants to is going to be a great spur to (at least) some sectors of the American economy. I understand that the American Association of Undertakers, Morticians, and Funeral Parlour Operators is FULLY in support of doing so.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Evolution proves natural selection could not have invented sickness and disease, doesn't it?

In a word - "No.".

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

The US has 567 deaths per 1M people. Brazil, Sweden, Italy, Chile, Uk, Spain, Peru, all have more death per million.

We have less deaths.

Indeed,

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and, out of the top 50 (there are 165 with even lower numbers), there are 39 with lower deaths/million.

So, your point would be what? That the US is doing 2.166 times better than San Marino?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

...and Trump rallies. You conveniently forgot that part.

Trump rallies are NOT _responsible_ for a single death from COVID-19 or even a single case of COVID-19. They got waivers of liability. Anyone who attended a Trump rally and contracted COVID-19 did so voluntarily and through their own choice.

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[TU Curmudgeon]

So natural selection invented sickness and death? Why? Just to prove that the weak and sickly can die?

You do know that "natural selection" is NOT an "intelligent entity" (hell, it's not even a "thing") don't you?

You do know that the correct formulation is NOT "Those that are fit survive." but rather "Those that survive are fit.", don't you.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Holy mackerel. Natural selection allows those that are least equipped to survive the disease to pass while those that survive are able to pass on their stronger defense.

Natural selection does not apply ONLY to "disease" it applies to everything. During WWI, a male Briton had a much higher chance to survive and reproduce if they were congenitally blind in one eye that did one with perfect vision. Under "natural selection" that meant that those with one eye had a higher chance to survive and breed and thus were "more fit".

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

This disease is transmitted from COVID patient to rest home occupant by democrat design and command.

If an inmate of "The Home" were to make such a statement when under consideration for discharge, they wouldn't be discharged.

Such statements fall into the psychiatric grey zone in that they aren't sufficiently divorced from reality to get you put it if you are out, but they are also sufficiently divorced from reality to prevent you getting out if you are already in.

 

[RAMOSS]

There were 1,015 COVID 19 deaths in America 2 days ago. That's over 185,000 deaths total.


UK had 8

France had 20

Germany had 1

Canada had 6

South Korea had 3


Could we have done better and saved more lives?


Coronavirus Update (Live): 25,229,932 Cases and 847,706 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Yes, yes we could have. If the federal government didn't deny it's seriousness, and gave proper guidence, and didn't fight the states for resources they needed.

In another note... my coworker just lost her father to covid 19 yesterday. That is striking too close to home.

 

[marke]

You do know that "natural selection" is NOT an "intelligent entity" (hell, it's not even a "thing") don't you?

You do know that the correct formulation is NOT "Those that are fit survive." but rather "Those that survive are fit.", don't you.

I agree. Natural selection is not intelligent. It is not even real. It is a stupid myth. It is a nonsense speculation designed to turn natural adaptabilities given by God into some form of mystical entity without power or brains.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I agree. Natural selection is not intelligent. It is not even real. It is a stupid myth. It is a nonsense speculation designed to turn natural adaptabilities given by God into some form of mystical entity without power or brains.

Did you happen to notice that that post made absolutely no sense whatsoever?

 

[jpn]

In pictures:



Our death rate is currently 2.7 per million, compared to an average of about 0.1 per million throughout Europe.

If the US had followed Europe’s lead, our total COVID-19 deaths would be about 30 per day instead of the 1,000 per day we’re currently experiencing.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

In pictures:

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Our death rate is currently 2.7 per million, compared to an average of about 0.1 per million throughout Europe.

If the US had followed Europe’s lead, our total COVID-19 deaths would be about 30 per day instead of the 1,000 per day we’re currently experiencing.

Daily "snapshot" data isn't actually all that good for forming conclusions from however, here is today's equivalent in tabular form

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Equally, the historical data does tend to exaggerate in the other direction

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Regardless of those the data does indicate that "Europe" has a better handle on COVID-19 than the US has (see Column 10 in the second table).

 

[marke]

In pictures:

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Our death rate is currently 2.7 per million, compared to an average of about 0.1 per million throughout Europe.

If the US had followed Europe’s lead, our total COVID-19 deaths would be about 30 per day instead of the 1,000 per day we’re currently experiencing.

Nonsense. That would be like saying if the US had only followed South Dakota's lead it would have had only a few hundred deaths instead of tens of thousands.