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“Enough Money"

Republicans going back to Reagan used to brag about how they cut taxes for many working stiffs and permanently removed them from the tax rolls. They did this as a means to garner support for tax cuts on capital and the wealthy with the promise that "A rising tide will float all boats." Instead of prosperity trickling down and lifting more people back onto the tax rolls, corporations, over the course of the last thirty years or so, helped remove even more people from the tax rolls by downsizing and exporting the jobs that previously supported the middle class. Now we find that "the few" who carried out this destruction, after they've taken most of the marbles and won the game, are mystified as to why "the many," who have little stake in the corporatist system, don't support it. It should surprise no one that "the rich," by their own hand, have created an intellectual elite who would desire to march us toward socialism:

I totally oppose an income tax for many reasons-some of which you partially touched on.

I also note that the uber rich often support socialism, death confiscation taxes etc to kill off the competition and to serve as an opiate of the masses
 
Well, I don't really believe that you can call it "gouging" when there are alternatives to a pair of Nikes. And, since shoes can be a fashion item as well as a utility item, the fact that Nikes are produced overseas leaves an opportunity for a nimble competitor like New Balance, which produces many of its shoes in multiple American plants, to redefine the market for athletic footwear. Personally, I wear a pair of American-made SAS shoes in my work. They're not cheap, but they're comfortable and last forever.

Well, it would be more gouging for the dumb schmucks that think that Nike's (or other like shoes) are the ONLY way to go... I typically do the same though, buying as much products as I can that are made in country, and the price difference really is not that big all things considered, and depending on brands... I've NEVER had worse experience with shoes then the one time I went out and bought a pair of Nikes... I mean, even imitation Nike's haven't been as bad as the legit ones... but we're talking walk out with new shoes and by the end of the week they started falling apart... Words cannot describe the level of frustration.

IMHO, there's really no excuse for clothes to have a shelf-life of less then 6 months, especially for the prices charged.

Otherwise, I'm mostly speaking in generalities... since the overall economic picture is so intricately complex, especially when you take into account the global marketplace.
 
The misconception in progressive thinking is that capitalists own the monopoly on greed and that politicians are free from greed. They don’t understand that capitalism works because someone provides you with what you want. Government is looking for ways to extort money from you in exchange for "protection" like the mafia.
 
The misconception in progressive thinking is that capitalists own the monopoly on greed and that politicians are free from greed. They don’t understand that capitalism works because someone provides you with what you want. Government is looking for ways to extort money from you in exchange for "protection" like the mafia.

liberals claim the way to stop private businesses creating monopolies is to give the government even more monopoly power

Liberals whine about too much wealth being concentrated in the hands of several million people so the libs want to concentrate all wealth in the hands of several hundred scumbags called politicians and the bureaucrats who work for them
 
liberals claim the way to stop private businesses creating monopolies is to give the government even more monopoly power

Liberals whine about too much wealth being concentrated in the hands of several million people so the libs want to concentrate all wealth in the hands of several hundred scumbags called politicians and the bureaucrats who work for them

I take comfort in the fact that the real power is held by the people who vote with their wallets. That's not the wealthy, and it's not politicians. How many computers or flat-screen TVs can "the few" buy? Ultimately, it's the "little people" who are sitting in the nation's driver's seat. And they can survive just fine by shacking up with Mom and Dad and purchasing a few basics from Goodwill and Dollar General.
 
The misconception in progressive thinking is that capitalists own the monopoly on greed and that politicians are free from greed. They don’t understand that capitalism works because someone provides you with what you want. Government is looking for ways to extort money from you in exchange for "protection" like the mafia.

People are human with human motives, including greed, fear, and prejudice, so how can you blame them for just being human?

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Obama doesn't have the right to redistribute income, but he can use the Executive power to do that. Progressives most of the time try to legitimize taking from the more affluent in the society and rewards those who haven’t earned, because according to them that is the moral thing to do. In reality what they are after is more power to control people lives.


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People used to speak of millionaires with envy and even jealousy. This administration has targeted them as the enemy to vilify, and try to make them look like thieves who are taking money that belong to others. Seem that the administration is trying to ignite a class war between the social classes.
 
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People used to speak of millionaires with envy and even jealousy.

I'm coming to admire and appreciate frugality. Yesterday, while my wife was grocery shopping, I went to a thrift store and bought a new pair of Wrangler khakis and an IZOD polo that looks great. I added that to my collection of Tommy Hilfiger and Ralph Lauren thrift finds.
 
People used to speak of millionaires with envy and even jealousy. This administration has targeted them as the enemy to vilify, and try to make them look like thieves who are taking money that belong to others. Seem that the administration is trying to ignite a class war between the social classes.

Meanwhile, for those the truly study the flow of money will tell you this is the point where the Billionairs are trying to take out the millionairs, through lobbying / regulations, and simultaneously playing off the lower classes against the upper-middle classes (this would be the group that generates 70-80% of the money flow in the real economy, the millionairs / multi-millionairs, with exceptions). Then, when there's only poor people left, they will have nobody left to turn to but the state as domesticated humans.

So, yes, that would be the route government is taking in the 'short->medium term'... I would also pay attention to any escalations at the US-Mexico border. There are so many issues that are all coming to a head it's difficult to list them.
 
People used to speak of millionaires with envy and even jealousy. This administration has targeted them as the enemy to vilify, and try to make them look like thieves who are taking money that belong to others. Seem that the administration is trying to ignite a class war between the social classes.

Democrats have tried to use this tactic for years. The great recession makes people scared which in turn allows those in power to pick out scapgoats.
 
well apparently bill gates and some of his buddys (the richest people in the world) have enough money and are giving half of their money to the poor.
 
well apparently bill gates and some of his buddys (the richest people in the world) have enough money and are giving half of their money to the poor.

It will be interesting to see if these contributions are more helpful to society than if they were just added to the government coffers thru higher taxes.
 
Meanwhile, for those the truly study the flow of money will tell you this is the point where the Billionairs are trying to take out the millionairs, through lobbying / regulations, and simultaneously playing off the lower classes against the upper-middle classes (this would be the group that generates 70-80% of the money flow in the real economy, the millionairs / multi-millionairs, with exceptions). Then, when there's only poor people left, they will have nobody left to turn to but the state as domesticated humans.

So, yes, that would be the route government is taking in the 'short->medium term'... I would also pay attention to any escalations at the US-Mexico border. There are so many issues that are all coming to a head it's difficult to list them.

the uber wealthy often favor socialism as an opiate of the masses. They have solidified their positions and don't want any upheavel. They also realize that high progressive tax rates kill off the merely rich from making it into their club. Most of the Uber wealthy realize that a death confiscation tax also insulates them since they spend so little of their income, they will regenerate the value of their estates normally before each cut of the estate tax takes place while those in the 2-20 million range will not.
 
the uber wealthy often favor socialism as an opiate of the masses. They have solidified their positions and don't want any upheavel. They also realize that high progressive tax rates kill off the merely rich from making it into their club. Most of the Uber wealthy realize that a death confiscation tax also insulates them since they spend so little of their income, they will regenerate the value of their estates normally before each cut of the estate tax takes place while those in the 2-20 million range will not.

So you believe in class warfare?

A while back you were attempting to belittle me for bringing up class warefare, the rich class vs the middle class. Now it seems that you are a believer in class warefare, the Uber rich verses the barely rich.
 
The common good is helped by parents teaching their children, by parents getting involved, by children and young adults learning, whether it is a trade school, college, or certifications. The common good is not helped by handouts, class warfare struggles, and overtaxing the producers because you want to sit around and cry for those that refuse to help themselves. Egalitarianism is worthless and we're not all equal and life isn't fair.
 
Egalitarianism is worthless and we're not all equal and life isn't fair.

'nuff said. There is a place for you in Saudi Arabia.

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