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‘Threats’ prompt Target stores in US to withdraw some Pride Collection products

You got me.

I had a long reply typed up listing every major corporation around the globe that responsibly sells every product you want to buy, available in your local area, broken down by commodity category and with relevant dates of their next financial disclosures so that you could follow up to ensure they remain responsible in the future, but now I see you're not serious.

I have to admit, I fell for it. Point to you.
Hey! I was being serious. If you have one, I'd love to see it. I avoid Walmart like the plague because I don't like how they force their employees to rely on federal subsidies rather than offer them fulltime employment with benefits and a wage high enough they don't qualify for food stamps.

I'm still interested, if you have the time ;)
 
God help the minority or woman that strays off the liberal plantation. Hell hath no fury like liberals attacking those they think they own.
Great way to put it. Humans don't like to think so, but we are very tribal and the means used to control the tribal members are indeed harsh.
 
Hey! I was being serious. If you have one, I'd love to see it. I avoid Walmart like the plague because I don't like how they force their employees to rely on federal subsidies rather than offer them fulltime employment with benefits and a wage high enough they don't qualify for food stamps.

I'm still interested, if you have the time ;)
I'm sorry, I deleted what I had typed because I thought you were trolling, and no longer have the list of every single responsible major global corporation that could sell every product you might desire.

I encourage you to do the decent thing and research the companies you buy from, their board members, their working conditions and their suppliers so that you can spend your money in a way that aligns with your values.
 
Not at all. Here, I'll help you and compare your statement to the message found on the American Nazi website:








Hope that helps! :)
Yes, it helps in my decision to longer engage with you.
 
Yes, it helps in my decision to longer engage with you.
I was hoping it might help you to rethink some of your positions if you realized they were the same as those of Nazis--it would make me question my beliefs if they were the same.

But you do you :)
 
Don’t you have some holes to dig?
The new shakedown artists that have replaced Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the NAACP, and BLM ate the HRC and their CEI scoring system.
 
White of course. Are you confirming that poor white Appalachians have white privilege within the judicial system? Do they have other race-based privileges within the workforce or other US institutions?

I never said Appalachians owned slaves. I asked if they got rich off of it. You mentioned them getting a break in our judcial system, perhaps that's a privilege that was forged by slavery early in the country's history?

Poor white trash: "At least I'm white."
 
The comparison fits like a glove and you come thru clear as crystal and thankfully so. Go ahead and continue to blame liberals, professors and the media like Nazis, for "allowing blacks to stay poor". Do you actually read what you write? Allowing, as if its their goal, those lazy blacks (but now apparently intelligent enough to find Africa on a map). You are one racist mofo. And btw, blacks owned one tenth or less of the wealth of whites well before, "unfettered welfare"...
Yes. The goal of the Democrats is to keep blacks on the plantation. Everything they do allows them to stay there, welfare being chief and primary among the tactics, but now the teaching of CRT and the goal to not use standardized testing for graduation or college admissions. More recently a judge ruled that cash bail is unconstitutional in Los Angeles and the Democrats are against harsh penalties for fentanyl distribution because it affects "minorities" more. It is the Democrats that have always been the racists. At least I think and know blacks are just smart as anyone else. The Democrats treat them as if they are imbeciles needing their help and they imagine they are better than others when they shower them with welfare cash and don't demand any personal responsibility. But, hey...if you can make an excuse that whitey did bad things 60-100 years ago, you give them an excuse and you are a hero. Racist mofo, indeed.
 
The new shakedown artists that have replaced Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the NAACP, and BLM ate the HRC and their CEI scoring system.

This is highly ironic, as far from being shaked down, corporations see a financial benefit to acknowledging the LGBTQ community.

Your side boycotting them for it is more like your shakedown.
 
I think you answered your own question. If all things were equal, then it wouldn't be better to be white and poor than black and poor :) However, yes--they do. Whites get better housing, healthcare, education, and employment. Just facts easily found in thousands of studies and analyses.

Of course.

But, unlike you suggested, I've never seen anyone accuse them of being wealthy slave owners. I could have just missed it, I suppose. If you have evidence, I'm happy to take a look :)

Thank you for the confirmation. I'm not going to argue whether poor whites are privileged or not. However, put yourself in West Virginia living halfway up a mountain in a shack. How hard would it be to understand your white privilege? Putting myself there, I'd find it hard to believe I had racial privilege.

In political terms, is it more important that other people think poor whites are privileged, or would you rather have that poor white recognize their privilege and cast their vote accordingly?
 
This is highly ironic, as far from being shaked down, corporations see a financial benefit to acknowledging the LGBTQ community.

Your side boycotting them for it is more like your shakedown.
The HRC is just the new racket in town and can destroy a corporation that doesn't cower to their Marxist ideology.
 
Thank you for the confirmation. I'm not going to argue whether poor whites are privileged or not. However, put yourself in West Virginia living halfway up a mountain in a shack. How hard would it be to understand your white privilege? Putting myself there, I'd find it hard to believe I had racial privilege.

In political terms, is it more important that other people think poor whites are privileged, or would you rather have that poor white recognize their privilege and cast their vote accordingly?
Lack of education is an epidemic in this country--especially in impoverished areas. I would hope that when they vote, they vote in their best interests and not on culture wars or bias about race relations in the U.S., so they can have strong representatives to see to their community's needs.

Are you familiar with The Poor People's Campaign started by MLK?

Often, the issue of racism is dismissed as classism. They are connected, but they're two different issues. Poor people are often demonized, as are minorities. Yet a white poor man in the judicial system fares better than a black poor man in the judicial system.
 
This is highly ironic, as far from being shaked down, corporations see a financial benefit to acknowledging the LGBTQ community.

Your side boycotting them for it is more like your shakedown.
Bud Light and Target is finding out.
 
So there’s also been some rage in conservative circles about the Ford commercial.

The Anti-Trans sentiment and rage that has fuelled the anti-trans laws across the country is spilling over into anger and hate towards any LGBTQ concept, idea or imagery whatsoever.

This sentiment Is pent up rage that has been trying to find expression for awhile, you don’t just wake up one morning and decide you’re going to target a minority.

This IS going to cause violence and watch those who are excusing or minimizing these threats now, look and watch at the excuses they’ll make when that violence is directed towards that minority, its coming and I think in the back of their heads, they’d never admit it, but they’ll think it’s justified.
 
SCHOOL Boards governed by state law decide whats age appropriate ( in the context of "florida is fascist" charge you made)
whatever you want to feed your kids minds doesnt mean the rest of parents need to get the same treatment


you dont cite despite 3 x making the same claim. first you said "related" then you say "tangential" with the new reason it's in the same line of text. Weak sauce.
Oh, I found out why you mentioned satanist there, and you are absolutely trying to cover for yourself now, because it does relate to the LGBT+ pride display. You believed the people claiming some of the items were created by a "satanist" (really a member of the Satanic Temple, a secular organization that uses Satan to express how absurd some beliefs are).





You are trying to gaslight as if you didn't make that connection between satanists and LGBT+ people.
 
Yet Target sold none of that. They bought only Pride products from the supplier. That supplier also sells Satan stuff--which Target never carried.

Target couldn't pull stuff they never stocked. They instead are pulling anything Pride related from the same supplier who also has Satan merchandise they sell elsewhere.
well good riddance to all that rubbish.
Nothing against LGBT but most people see that shit plastered on websites or in stores and barf quietly in their mouth.
Woke corps are busy telling us YOU MUST BE INCLUSIVE SO HERE IS A BUNCH OF TASTELESS CRAP TO WADE thru

Personally if i had kids i'd make them wear blindfolds..rofl "ok take them off and see something not shoved in your face.

It's not that were' intolerant of LGBTQ, it's we're not interested in being bombarded with wokeness constant screaming
we must appreciate that marketing or we are bigots
 
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So there’s also been some rage in conservative circles about the Ford commercial.

The Anti-Trans sentiment and rage that has fuelled the anti-trans laws across the country is spilling over into anger and hate towards any LGBTQ concept, idea or imagery whatsoever.

This sentiment Is pent up rage that has been trying to find expression for awhile, you don’t just wake up one morning and decide you’re going to target a minority.

This IS going to cause violence and watch those who are excusing or minimizing these threats now, look and watch at the excuses they’ll make when that violence is directed towards that minority, its coming and I think in the back of their heads, they’d never admit it, but they’ll think it’s justified.
So far, we have bomb threats, but they seem to be directed at Target for discontinuing just three items out of a couple of thousand.
 
I bet nothing nearly as absurd as Satanism.


Yes, certainly.


The Satan thing is really what gave it wings and why it exploded on social media. The "women's style" bathing suits came on after. I saw a lot of jokes about the bathing suits, but no real outrage. I think someone falsely claimed that they were selling them for kids, too - that likely caused (unwarranted) anger.
You mean not understanding what "Satanism" they are referring to in relation to the designer. It's not even real Satanism, because they aren't worshipping Satan, since the group doesn't really believe in Satan. They are using Satan as a way to point out the absurdity of beliefs.

Conservative social media pushers and the pundits are the ones causing the anger.
 
well good riddance to all that rubbish.
Nothing against LGBT but most people see that shit plastered on websites or in stores and barf quietly in their mouth.
Woke corps are busy telling us YOU MUST BE INCLUSIVE SO HERE IS A BUNCH OF TASTELESS CRAP TO WADE thru

Personally if i had kids i'd make them wear blindfolds..rofl "ok take them off and see something not shoved in your face.

It's not that were' intolerant of LGBTQ, it's we're not interested in being bombarded with wokeness constant screaming
we must appreciate that marketing or we are bigots
You don't get to speak for "most people", so please stop.

Those who claim that a rainbow or "pride" causes them to "barf quietly in their mouth" deserve to be called out for the bigotry.
 
of course that happens, but more and more Ivy students are not from the USA. The test scores and graduation rates of US students compared to the word are dropping, empirical evidence we are turning out diminished quality students

of course. the funny thing is despite mountains of evidence from the FBI-Twitter files
and the fake Russian collusion hoax, many still cling to the idea the FBI aren't political stooges
Where are the best and worst school systems in the country? Who's turning out the "diminished quality students"?
 
Oh, I found out why you mentioned satanist there, and you are absolutely trying to cover for yourself now, because it does relate to the LGBT+ pride display. You believed the people claiming some of the items were created by a "satanist" (really a member of the Satanic Temple, a secular organization that uses Satan to express how absurd some beliefs are).





You are trying to gaslight as if you didn't make that connection between satanists and LGBT+ people.

you still beating that horse? I don even remember the post. 4 times you mention it with various impugning my character
siniser motives..now im gaslighting?? 1
1. you should pull up the actual quote so i can see what im accused of
2. I no longer care to do this dance over again. Move on
3..are you my ex wife who always had to gwt in the last word
4. get over it. nothing is worth the intense amount of effect over 1 line you are obsessed with
 
you still beating that horse? I don even remember the post. 4 times you mention it with various impugning my character
siniser motives..now im gaslighting?? 1
1. you should pull up the actual quote so i can see what im accused of
2. I no longer care to do this dance over again. Move on
3..are you my ex wife who always had to gwt in the last word
4. get over it. nothing is worth the intense amount of effect over 1 line you are obsessed with
So still gaslighting?
 
You don't get to speak for "most people", so please stop.

Those who claim that a rainbow or "pride" causes them to "barf quietly in their mouth" deserve to be called out for the bigotry.
take a chill pill. Im talking about the constant bombardment of woke crap. not any 1 thing in particular
You dont get to determine anything either...like the saying goes it's a free country.

The marketplace decides. So far it looks like Target is getting whacked, Bud Light got whacked
I dont know if you are a socialist or just a S.J.Warrior, but the beauty of all this is the "invisible hand of the marketplace"
as it should be
 
You mean not understanding what "Satanism" they are referring to in relation to the designer. It's not even real Satanism, because they aren't worshipping Satan, since the group doesn't really believe in Satan. They are using Satan as a way to point out the absurdity of beliefs.
There was no attempt on the part of the designer for people to understand that (if that's even what was meant). You can't blame others for you own poor messaging.

Conservative social media pushers and the pundits are the ones causing the anger.
I don't know what makes one a "social media pusher" - but people say stuff all the time that doesn't go viral. This did because of the Satanist merchandise and instagram posts which the designer has now deleted.
 
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