‘Intruder’ able to walk into Uvalde school unchallenged as new report slams medical response

[JacksinPA]

‘Intruder’ able to walk into Uvalde school unchallenged as new report slams medical response

A Texas safety inspector posing as an intruder was recently able to stroll unchallenged into a Uvalde school — as a damning new investigation also blamed a “flawed medical response&#822…

nypost.com

A Texas safety inspector posing as an intruder was recently able to stroll unchallenged into a Uvalde school — as a damning new investigation also blamed a “flawed medical response” for failing to save some of the 21 slaughtered in a mass shooting at Robb Elementary.

The inspector was even able to enter through a back door that did not latch, eerily similar to how 18-year-old madman Salvador Ramos got into Robb Elementary before killing 19 fourth-graders and two teachers.

The shocking breach was revealed at a Uvalde school board meeting Monday night, attended by at least a dozen family members of victims of the May shooting, the San Antonio Express-News said.

Grieving loved ones were furious that “somebody just walked right in” seven months after one of the deadliest school shootings in history, KSAT also said of the meeting.
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The stars at night are big & bright...

 

[Gateman_Wen]

‘Intruder’ able to walk into Uvalde school unchallenged as new report slams medical response

A Texas safety inspector posing as an intruder was recently able to stroll unchallenged into a Uvalde school — as a damning new investigation also blamed a “flawed medical response&#822…

nypost.com

A Texas safety inspector posing as an intruder was recently able to stroll unchallenged into a Uvalde school — as a damning new investigation also blamed a “flawed medical response” for failing to save some of the 21 slaughtered in a mass shooting at Robb Elementary.

The inspector was even able to enter through a back door that did not latch, eerily similar to how 18-year-old madman Salvador Ramos got into Robb Elementary before killing 19 fourth-graders and two teachers.

The shocking breach was revealed at a Uvalde school board meeting Monday night, attended by at least a dozen family members of victims of the May shooting, the San Antonio Express-News said.

Grieving loved ones were furious that “somebody just walked right in” seven months after one of the deadliest school shootings in history, KSAT also said of the meeting.
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The stars at night are big & bright...

Texas police and politicians are apparently the least capable people in the state.

 

[Mr Person]

NY Post but...

"The inspector was even able to enter through a back door that did not latch, eerily similar to how 18-year-old madman Salvador Ramos got into Robb Elementary before killing 19 fourth-graders and two teachers."​

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Maybe there's a lack of resources but how do you just not care that much? A door that doesn't latch?

 

[Mr Person]

A door that doesn't ****ing latch.

 

[tshade]

the whole affair still boggles the mind. No one I know can wrap their heads around it ,..................ANY of it

 

[BitterPill]

Texas police and politicians are apparently the least capable people in the state.

I suspect you are confusing capable with culpable.

MAGA.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

I suspect you are confusing capable with culpable.

MAGA.

Either way.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Texas police and politicians are apparently the least capable people in the state.

That isn’t unique to Texas. It’s also odd that you think that police and/or politicians should be held responsible for school personnel (alleged professionals) being inept.

 

[ttwtt78640]

A door that doesn't ****ing latch.

Yep, but lax “gun control” laws and/or “assault rifles” were the ‘root causes’ of that (and all other?) mass shootings.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I suspect you are confusing capable with culpable.

MAGA.

More likely trying to find some way to exempt school personnel (with jobs for life regardless of performance) from having anything to do with it. The odd thing about pubic employment is that all problems, after months or careful (usually internal) study and analysis, are said to have been caused by ‘lack of resources’, thus the only way to make government any better (i.e. to fix any problems) is to make government bigger and/or more expensive.

 

[Peter]

The problem is there's no such thing as an impenetrable building unless you want to make all schools resemble super max prisons.

I don't envy the people in charge of US schools as they have an almost impossible job of trying to secure the school buildings while alsom keeping them being schools and not military fortresses.

 

[Grand Mal]

More likely trying to find some way to exempt school personnel (with jobs for life regardless of performance) from having anything to do with it. The odd thing about pubic employment is that all problems, after months or careful (usually internal) study and analysis, are said to have been caused by ‘lack of resources’, thus the only way to make government any better (i.e. to fix any problems) is to make government bigger and/or more expensive.

Another odd thing about employment in the public sector is the expectation that a system that has had a total, disastrous failure be fixed without committing new resources to the problem.
One day a politician will have the confidence, either through personal courage or a changed public attitude or both, to run and be elected on raising taxes to address a desperately needed fix.

 

[Grand Mal]

The problem is there's no such thing as an impenetrable building unless you want to make all schools resemble super max prisons.

I don't envy the people in charge of US schools as they have an almost impossible job of trying to secure the school buildings while alsom keeping them being schools and not military fortresses.

And do it without spending a dime more than you do now.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Another odd thing about employment in the public sector is the expectation that a system that has had a total, disastrous failure be fixed without committing new resources to the problem.
One day a politician will have the confidence, either through personal courage or a changed public attitude or both, to run and be elected on raising taxes to address a desperately needed fix.

Doubling the pay of an incompetent employee or hiring another one to help them doesn’t make them do a better job.

To even try to assert that the Uvalde school system ‘lacked the resources’ to determine if a school’s exterior doors latch properly or to fix such a terribly complex technical problem is 100% nonsense.

If that most basic aspect of school physical security plans can’t be achieved with existing staff then that staff lacks the critical resource of common sense and should be terminated immediately.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Yep, but lax “gun control” laws and/or “assault rifles” were the ‘root causes’ of that (and all other?) mass shootings.

Take away the tool used for mass shootings and the mass shootings would be nigh impossible to perform

 

[ttwtt78640]

Take away the tool used for mass shootings and the mass shootings would be nigh impossible to perform

Hmm… are the Uvalde schools are going to need ‘more resources’ to do that?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Hmm… are the Uvalde schools are going to need ‘more resources’ to do that?

No, but with out guns the need to turn schools into a fortress/prison would be lower.

A caretaker with basic maintenance skills would likely be able to fix a door latch. Perhaps less money spent on metal detectors and more on maintenance

 

[ttwtt78640]

No, but with out guns the need to turn schools into a fortress/prison would be lower.

A caretaker with basic maintenance skills would likely be able to fix a door latch. Perhaps less money spent on metal detectors and more on maintenance

Exactly, but you would rather ignore that fact in order to assert the need for ‘more resources’, thus shifting the responsibility to those outside the Uvalde school system.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Exactly, but you would rather ignore that fact in order to assert the need for ‘more resources’, thus shifting the responsibility to those outside the Uvalde school system.

A school should not need to be a fortress

Fix the issues that require schools to be a fortress, and society would be much better overall

 

[ttwtt78640]

A school should not need to be a fortress

Fix the issues that require schools to be a fortress, and society would be much better overall

It doesn’t require having “a fortress” to prevent someone from simply walking in unchallenged.

A Texas safety inspector posing as an intruder was recently able to stroll unchallenged into a Uvalde school — as a damning new investigation also blamed a “flawed medical response” for failing to save some of the 21 slaughtered in a mass shooting at Robb Elementary.

The inspector was even able to enter through a back door that did not latch, eerily similar to how 18-year-old madman Salvador Ramos got into Robb Elementary before killing 19 fourth-graders and two teachers.

 

[devildavid]

Doubling the pay of an incompetent employee or hiring another one to help them doesn’t make them do a better job.

To even try to assert that the Uvalde school system ‘lacked the resources’ to determine if a school’s exterior doors latch properly or to fix such a terribly complex technical problem is 100% nonsense.

If that most basic aspect of school physical security plans can’t be achieved with existing staff then that staff lacks the critical resource of common sense and should be terminated immediately.

After they are all terminated will the same pay now attract better candidates for the jobs? And how will the same resources get different results?

 

[devildavid]

It doesn’t require having “a fortress” to prevent someone from simply walking in unchallenged.

What does it take? And how is it accomplished with limited resources?

 

[ttwtt78640]

After they are all terminated will the same pay now attract better candidates for the jobs?

Perhaps not, but (endlessly?) rewarding failure clearly isn’t working.

And how will the same resources get different results?

The same way it does in the private (non-union) sector, underperforming employees get replaced.

 

[JacksinPA]

Yep, but lax “gun control” laws and/or “assault rifles” were the ‘root causes’ of that (and all other?) mass shootings.

Ban guns, not books: local yard signs

 

[devildavid]

Perhaps not, but (endlessly?) rewarding failure clearly isn’t working.



The same way it does in the private (non-union) sector, underperforming employees get replaced.

They aren’t exactly rewarding failure, they are funding just enough to guarantee it. They can’t replace people in the same way as companies that can afford to pay more. They don’t have the resources to do that.