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  1. Groucho

    homosexuality potentially punishable by death

    Yeah I decided to visit again after some time away and now I remember why. Goodbye again.
  2. Groucho

    The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Because I have become convinced that the seeds of truth cannot grow in rock. How can you debate with people who believe things that are blatantly untrue? No matter how many facts you point out, there are folks who still believe that Obama is a Muslim and a socialist, that climate change is a...
  3. Groucho

    The Rev. Franklin Graham Says President Obama was 'Born a Muslim'

    Threads like these are why I have basically given up on this site. This is ridiculous. It's like the entire site has turned into the conspiracy forum. Anyone have a good suggestion for a good political site where reasonable people can discuss politics? Where there is a good ratio between...
  4. Groucho

    Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Agreed -- people have every right to protest the Mosque, just like everyone has the right to protest stupid radio talk show hosts. No one's 1st amendment rights have been violated in either case. Had the government prohibited the Mosque from building simply because of their religion, or...
  5. Groucho

    Last US Combat Troops Leave Iraq

    Re: Goodbye Iraq: Last US combat brigade heads home What will Olberman say at the end of each of his shows now?!!!!
  6. Groucho

    Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    I agree with this; the government has policies that any agency (religious or not) would have to follow. If the group does not wish to follow it, then they don't have to participate.
  7. Groucho

    Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    You'd think that someone who has a show in which she discusses politics would know something about politics, wouldn't you?
  8. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    I certainly am, as I said here plenty of times. I think Hate Crime legislation is unconstitutional, in that in punishes people for what they think.
  9. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    Yes, but content based speech simply because it is insulting has never been banned, and never should be. Now you're getting the content of the speech confused with the "Time, Place and Manner" exception, which does NOT prohibit the speech itself but only the way it is presented. You have...
  10. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    Interesting! I don't know. I suppose a DA could make that argument. Not sure if it would stick.
  11. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    OK, I understand your concern, but how do you then make an exception to the 1st amendment to allow this without another amendment? This is like flag burning. No one likes it, it insults all of us, but it's protected speech nonetheless. You'd have to change the constitution to prohibit it.
  12. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    A scam that is protected by the Constitution. He didn't say it under oath (then it would be perjury). He didn't use this lie to con people out of money (then it would be fraud). He basically lied to enhance his resume (just like certain politicians have done!). Of course we don't like it...
  13. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    The shame is that conservatives who claim to be "strict constructionists" of the Constitution ignore it when their feelings are hurt.
  14. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    The key to remember is this: There is a LOT of speech out there that is disrespectful, hurts the feelings of other people, and simply makes you angry. A lot of this speech is lies. If you start making this speech illegal, that's a very dangerous path. Next someone will make it illegal to use...
  15. Groucho

    *** Is Sharia Law (as practiced in Saudi Arabia) bigoted toward gays and lesbians? **

    Re: *** Is Sharia Law (as practiced in Saudi Arabia) bigoted toward gays and lesbians Your search - "an essence of tolerance and wealth, beauty and relativity." (CNN, Aug 9, 2009, interview ... - did not match any documents. Hey, Gay Libertarian, you gonna provide a link or are you just lying...
  16. Groucho

    Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

    This is not about slander or libel or fraud. It's about some guy claiming he has an award he doesn't have. It is making lying a crime, even if no harm (other than believing the lie) comes from it. You guys really want that? You want everything anyone says to be subjected to a Truth Squad...
  17. Groucho

    Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Yes.... but there are other religions that use myth and superstition to justify killing you and flying planes into buildings. It does work both ways.
  18. Groucho

    Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    If that church thought they were being discriminated against because of their religion, they'd have the best damn lawsuit ever. Lawyers would be jumping all over wanting to have them as clients. Instead, no one from the church thinks that. It's only the crazies on the internet throwing up...
  19. Groucho

    Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    No, my assertion is that EVERYTHING came simultaneous with religion. Religion has been a part of our society ever since cavemen looked up and saw lightning and made up a god to explain it. Science and medicine also came with religion. Everything did, that's the point. You can't separate...
  20. Groucho

    Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    No, I think they both evolved at the same time. People needed rules for a society to work, and god(s) gave them a reason to enforce those rules (as well as a bunch of other rules that didn't have anything to do with morals, such as "obey the leaders and do what the church tells you") There are...
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