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  1. formerroadie

    Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

    The reason this won't happen is because conservatives are recalcitrant and spread lies about current policies in the hopper. Republicans have been far from helpful and have in fact been acting like children who aren't getting their way. If we go the way of the conservative ideas, our country...
  2. formerroadie

    hey liblady, i just checked out for a while. sorry :(

    hey liblady, i just checked out for a while. sorry :(
  3. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    I have to disagree with you. When Dav says political, I think he means in the wider country, not in and among people. Anytime people are together, there are going to be issues because people bring baggage. The reason Evangelicalism is so damn messed up is because those in it believe...
  4. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Yes, because I knew that Evangelicalism was not the core of the Christian faith. If I abandoned my faith because of them, then they influence me the same way they did when I was a part of their group. Evangelicals cannot define Christianity for me, my family, or the majority of the church.
  5. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    By the way Catz and Tooth, I am also an ex-evangelical.
  6. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Agreed. But, again, not all Christians agreed with such measures. So, we are at the beginning of the argument again. I do like that you say "evangelicals" because that is the group I would place them in among people who claim to be Christian. But, there are probably evangelicals that don't...
  7. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    I am talking about historical occurrences, not "belief." While I am a believer, I am also a historian. There was no grand scheme to do what you say at the inception of Christianity. Sorry man. The fact is, the majority of people (I am a scholar and am hesitant to say "all" ;) ) were...
  8. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    This is true. Like I said in a prior post, religion was not separate from politics in any society (that we have record of) until the enlightenment. Therefore, it's difficult to compare the US to those periods. BUT, there were those who had issues with it nonetheless. St. John Chrysostom was...
  9. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Philippians chapter 2 for one. Please don't argue with me if you haven't even read your Bible for goodness sake. There are numerous verses in Paul's letters that contradict your claim.
  10. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    WHAT?! Now you're just not making sense.
  11. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Ok Tooth. It seems you are going to argue with anything I say no matter what it is. I said nothing about the origins of the teachings nor whom they listened to. Paul taught them to follow Jesus. Therefore, they were following Jesus THROUGH the teachings of Paul. This is a HUGE discussion...
  12. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Oh Lord, you need to meet some good Christians for a change. Yeesh. You should call out Christians who place politics at the center of their faith. You go. I do the same. It doesn't justify blanket statements about the religion in general.
  13. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Christianity was a sub group of Judaism in its inception. It was a small group of people who agreed to follow Jesus across the empire. There was no grand mastermind scheme behind it.
  14. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    That's just it. You presuppose that there is a majority of the Christian population voting and acting in that manner. That is not necessarily true. Yup. The RC did that after splitting from my church. We have a unique situation in history in that Religion/Politics/Kinship are not...
  15. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Christianity? No.
  16. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Good examples, but what about the ones who represent the opposite like, say, Martin Luther King, The Patriarch of Constantinople, Saint Maximovich, etc. You see, those who cause the violence and craziness are usually the loudest and therefore held up as the examples of the entire religion. In...
  17. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    The wars in the OT are not justification for war. That is horrible interpretation and should not be followed. My church does not. We don't even read the OT in our calender except during lent and only the portions that refer to the suffering servant in Isaiah. Here, this is a quote from an...
  18. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Please, point to where said doctrine is canonized in the church.
  19. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    Depends on which Christians and what part of the world.
  20. formerroadie

    Is Christianity Political?

    No, theologically, it is not political. There are those who would make it so and that is a twisted version of Christianity. The Church is to work in tandem with government in helping the poor, etc and in championing causes that lead to a more just society, i.e. universal health care. This is...
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