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US judge clears the way for imminent deportation of 8 migrants to South Sudan

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Eight migrants lost their last-ditch effort to halt their deportation to South Sudan by the Trump administration on Friday afternoon, clearing the way for their imminent transfer after a judge in Massachusetts denied their request.

Lawyers for the U.S. Justice Department said the men were scheduled to be flown to South Sudan on Friday at 7:00 pm Eastern Time after two courts considered the request on an emergency basis on July 4, when courts are otherwise closed for the Independence Day holiday....

South Sudan has long been dangerous even for locals. The U.S. State Department advises citizens not to travel there due to violent crime and armed conflict. The United Nations has said the African country's political crisis could reignite a brutal civil war that ended in 2018.

The eight men, who their lawyers said are from Cuba, Laos, Mexico, Burma, Sudan and Vietnam, argue their deportations to South Sudan would violate the U.S. constitution, which prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment....

The Friday effort to prevent the deportations came after months of back and forth between a Boston judge, the Supreme Court, and the Trump administration. U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy in Boston in May blocked the U.S. from immediately moving the men to South Sudan after he found that officials had violated his earlier ruling in a class action lawsuit concerning the due process rights of migrants. That ruling, in April, had blocked the administration from sending migrants to countries where they have no ties without giving them the chance to raise safety concerns. The Supreme Court on June 23 put Murphy's April injunction on hold. But Murphy that same day said the high court ruling did not apply to his May order. Calling Murphy's decision a "lawless act of defiance," the Justice Department the next day urged the Supreme Court to clarify its decision. The nine-member Supreme Court on Thursday, over the dissent of two of its liberal justices, sided with the Trump administration and said its decision serves to reverse Murphy's May order blocking the deportations to South Sudan.

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More renditioning done in our name by the Republican Party
 
All of them violent criminals. Enjoy the summer in Sudan. Not too bad. Its only in the 90s. Hopefully the prison as fresca or perhaps Bomb Pops.
 
All of them violent criminals. Enjoy the summer in Sudan. Not too bad. Its only in the 90s. Hopefully the prison as fresca or perhaps Bomb Pops.
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How do you know the eight renditioned to another continent are all "violent criminals"?

Why do you support the President's sending people to other countries - some to other continents - to prisons in nations where US law does not prevail, and, in some cases, to nations where there are language barriers?

How long do you think these people will be forced to remain in distant prisons?
 
All of them violent criminals. Enjoy the summer in Sudan. Not too bad. Its only in the 90s. Hopefully the prison as fresca or perhaps Bomb Pops.
Are you an American?
 
All of them violent criminals. Enjoy the summer in Sudan. Not too bad. Its only in the 90s. Hopefully the prison as fresca or perhaps Bomb Pops.
.....and you know this how?
 
It's been widely reported....this isn't new news. I'm consistently surpsised by how misinformed liberals are. They only get abou 50% of the truth frm their liberal sources.

“All of these aliens had committed heinous crimes in the United States, including murder, arson, armed robbery, kidnapping, sexual assault of a mentally handicapped woman, child rape, and more,” Trump’s Solicitor Gen. D. John Sauer told the court. They also had a “final order of removal” from an immigration judge.




.....and you know this how?
 
It's been widely reported....this isn't new news.
OK.....then providing the information to back up your allegation should be easy
 
It's been widely reported....this isn't new news.
Then you can easily corroborate your claim that all of those deported to a faraway country in which they likely have no family, do not speak the language(s), have no access to counsel, cannot call upon US law to keep them from "cruel and unusual punishment", and may never return from this confinement are "violent criminals"....right?

Provide copies and pastes from credible sources to which you post the links.
 

Eight migrants lost their last-ditch effort to halt their deportation to South Sudan by the Trump administration on Friday afternoon, clearing the way for their imminent transfer after a judge in Massachusetts denied their request.

Lawyers for the U.S. Justice Department said the men were scheduled to be flown to South Sudan on Friday at 7:00 pm Eastern Time after two courts considered the request on an emergency basis on July 4, when courts are otherwise closed for the Independence Day holiday....

South Sudan has long been dangerous even for locals. The U.S. State Department advises citizens not to travel there due to violent crime and armed conflict. The United Nations has said the African country's political crisis could reignite a brutal civil war that ended in 2018.

The eight men, who their lawyers said are from Cuba, Laos, Mexico, Burma, Sudan and Vietnam, argue their deportations to South Sudan would violate the U.S. constitution, which prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment....

The Friday effort to prevent the deportations came after months of back and forth between a Boston judge, the Supreme Court, and the Trump administration. U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy in Boston in May blocked the U.S. from immediately moving the men to South Sudan after he found that officials had violated his earlier ruling in a class action lawsuit concerning the due process rights of migrants. That ruling, in April, had blocked the administration from sending migrants to countries where they have no ties without giving them the chance to raise safety concerns. The Supreme Court on June 23 put Murphy's April injunction on hold. But Murphy that same day said the high court ruling did not apply to his May order. Calling Murphy's decision a "lawless act of defiance," the Justice Department the next day urged the Supreme Court to clarify its decision. The nine-member Supreme Court on Thursday, over the dissent of two of its liberal justices, sided with the Trump administration and said its decision serves to reverse Murphy's May order blocking the deportations to South Sudan.

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More renditioning done in our name by the Republican Party
Are they legally here? If they are refugees from the Sudan why did they skip over half the planet to get here. The root word to refugee is refuge. You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge.
 
Go away. Educate and inform yourself. I'm not here to inform liberals. Figure it out. Use google.

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Then you can easily corroborate your claim that all of those deported to a faraway country in which they likely have no family, do not speak the language(s), have no access to counsel, cannot call upon US law to keep them from "cruel and unusual punishment", and may never return from this confinement are "violent criminals"....right?

Provide copies and pastes from credible sources to which you post the links.
 
Are they legally here? If they are refugees from the Sudan why did they skip over half the planet to get here. The root word to refugee is refuge. You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge.
Post #9


Do the research to answer the questions you've raised and let us know by copying and pasting excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.


As for this:

"You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge."

That you might not do this doesn't mean others wouldn't (do this). Generalizing from your own experience/preference isn't valid.
 
All of them violent criminals. Enjoy the summer in Sudan. Not too bad. Its only in the 90s. Hopefully the prison as fresca or perhaps Bomb Pops.
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Post #2


How do you know the eight renditioned to another continent are all "violent criminals"?

Why do you support the President's sending people to other countries - some to other continents - to prisons in nations where US law does not prevail, and, in some cases, to nations where there are language barriers?

How long do you think these people will be forced to remain in distant prisons?
Post #3

.....and you know this how?
Post #5

It's been widely reported....this isn't new news. I'm consistently surpsised by how misinformed liberals are. They only get abou 50% of the truth frm their liberal sources.

“All of these aliens had committed heinous crimes in the United States, including murder, arson, armed robbery, kidnapping, sexual assault of a mentally handicapped woman, child rape, and more,” Trump’s Solicitor Gen. D. John Sauer told the court. They also had a “final order of removal” from an immigration judge.


Post #6

OK.....then providing the information to back up your allegation should be easy
Post #7

Go away. Educate and inform yourself. I'm not here to inform liberals. Figure it out. Use google.

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AND @TobyOne effectively admits he cannot substantiate his statement (see Post #2) that all of those renditioned by trump to South Sudan are "violent criminals".
 
I'm not here to inform ignorant liberals, only show them they're ignorant. As it turns out, you people wallow contentedly in your ignorance.



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AND @TobyOne effectively admits he cannot substantiate his statement (see Post #2) that all of those renditioned by trump to South Sudan are "violent criminals".
 
I'm not here to inform ignorant liberals, only show them they're ignorant. As it turns out, you people wallow contentedly in your ignorance.
Hoot!!!
 
Are they legally here? If they are refugees from the Sudan why did they skip over half the planet to get here. The root word to refugee is refuge. You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge.

I assume you will apply this same standard to the White South Africans Trump wants to give refugee status to, yes?
 
I'm not here to inform ignorant liberals, only show them they're ignorant. As it turns out, you people wallow contentedly in your ignorance.
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LOL....you made the claim, that means it's yours to corroborate.

That you cannot do this comes as no surprise.
 
Post #9


Do the research to answer the questions you've raised and let us know by copying and pasting excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.
So I have to research your point?
As for this:

"You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge."

That you might not do this doesn't mean others wouldn't (do this).
Generalizing from your own experience/preference isn't valid.
It's not my own experience it's understanding what refugee means
 
So I have to research your point?
Not at all. If you want to corroborate your point, you should do the research.

(I do my own research. But I don't do the work to try to substantiate the statements made by others.)

If you don't want to do the work to try to show that your point is accurate, that's your choice.
It's not my own experience it's understanding what refugee means
It's your understanding of what "refugee" means. Your understanding that a person doesn't use an airplane to become a refugee.

LOL
 
Not at all.
So are they illegal aliens?
If you want to corroborate your point, you should do the research.
What point? I asked you a question you seemed desperate not to answer.
(I do my own research.
Not enough to answer a simple question.
If you don't want to do the work to try to show that your point is accurate, that's your choice.
Do the work of answering a question posed to you?
It's your understanding of what "refugee" means.
No it's what it means in common parlance.
 
So are they illegal aliens?

What point? I asked you a question you seemed desperate not to answer.

Not enough to answer a simple question.

Do the work of answering a question posed to you?

No it's what it means in common parlance.

In Post #9, you wrote this:

Are they legally here? If they are refugees from the Sudan why did they skip over half the planet to get here. The root word to refugee is refuge. You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge.

I told you to do the research yourself to answer your question.

I also pointed out that your opinion that "You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge" is what you believe, but that doesn't make it fact.
 
CLAX1911 said:
So are they illegal aliens?

What point? I asked you a question you seemed desperate not to answer.

Not enough to answer a simple question.

Do the work of answering a question posed to you?

No it's what it means in common parlance.
Click to expand...
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In Post #9, you wrote this:
CLAX1911 said:
Are they legally here? If they are refugees from the Sudan why did they skip over half the planet to get here. The root word to refugee is refuge. You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge.

I told you to do the research yourself to answer your question.

I also pointed out that your opinion that "You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge" is what you believe, but that doesn't make it fact.


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Duh that's a question.

So I need to research your claim?
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Clearly, you have to do the research to provide the answer to question you asked in Post #9: "Are they here legally"?

I don't do your work.

Your claim from Post #9: You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge.

That's your opinion only. It's not fact.

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I've not tasked you with doing the research for any question or claim I made. What's clear is this: you don't want to do the work to answer your question. Okay by me.
 
In Post #9, you wrote this:
Yeah it's still a question
I told you to do the research yourself to answer your question.
I'm not researching your claim.
I also pointed out that your opinion that "You don't book a plane ticket to the other side of the planet because you're seeking refuge" is what you believe, but that doesn't make it fact.
You are falsely stating a fact is my opinion.
 
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